Fundamentals and Gamey

Taera · #1 February 2nd, 2003, 01:31 AM

geo, my major point is MIN/maxing. i know what you are saying, but then again - something that requies early kill, special strategies, banding together isnt too good. at all.

couslee · #2 February 2nd, 2003, 01:34 AM

Banding together? I thought KOTH was one on one with no AIs.

Other PBW games are of course a different story, I guess.

geoschmo · #3 February 2nd, 2003, 02:58 AM

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Originally posted by couslee:
Banding together? I thought KOTH was one on one with no AIs.

Other PBW games are of course a different story, I guess.

You are correct for KOTH. But Taera's concern seems to be that these min/max strategies will become widespread and used in all SEIV games.

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Originally posted by Taera:
geo, my major point is MIN/maxing. i know what you are saying, but then again - something that requies early kill, special strategies, banding together isnt too good. at all.

Taera, every strategy requires something to counter it. And not every strategy is good against every other strategy. What exactly would you like to see happen? It is not clear from your comments.

Geoschmo

Stone Mill · #4 February 2nd, 2003, 04:54 AM

I agree with Taera's frustration somewhat, as I have posted in the thread I started (KOTH: Attack of the clones). But I don't think it is cheating.

I don't think it is right to keep beating the wind out of newbies who get discouraged because their ships can't hit. But most players here are top notch and don't mind giving out strategy tips, and telling them why they are doing poorly.

I'd rather it weighed more heavily on the tactics and decisions you made during the game, and not so much on how you made your race. And it's a shame that an "average race" (without the fundamentals, so to speak) would get pounded 99% of the time against a 20/20/berserker.

Originally posted by Geo:

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But would a 110/110/merchant? Could his concentration in economics make up the difference? Possibly, if he is a skilled player.

Hmm. I would qualify that "possibly" as very slim against a 20/20/berserker. The math is still extremely unfavorable in your example.

javaslinger · #5 February 2nd, 2003, 04:57 AM

Taera,

I've been trying to test those settings you listed in the thread. However, you appear to have 2 too many of them. Which of them are redundant or am I missing something?

Thanks,

Ken

PvK · #6 February 2nd, 2003, 05:28 AM

Sounds like I need to finish my balance mod.

Fyron · #7 February 2nd, 2003, 06:00 AM

PvK, my Adamant Mod borrowed a lot of ideas from the Balance Mod.