Proportions Mod Versions 2.5.2 and 2.5.3 available

[PsychoTechFreak]

Is it still possible to use both, computers and biomass to avoid allegiance subverts?

I mean, if I put a ship under human control with the backup solution of a computer in standby mode, but the negative combat values would still subtract from the total, right?

For this case I think about a proposal to add a neutral component with the shielding effects against AS but without any control features, maybe called "councillor", is that even possible?

EDIT: I guess it has been patched recently that even if the computer has been destroyed the AS would not take effect, so forget about it...

[ February 10, 2003, 11:51: Message edited by: PsychoTechFreak ]

[Phoenix-D]

You can partially counter-act the negative effects of the computer by adding a Combat Bridge. That will add 10 to your ship's attack/defense Ratings.

Phoenix-D

[PvK]

Originally posted by PsychoTechFreak:
Is it still possible to use both, computers and biomass to avoid allegiance subverts?

Yes.

I mean, if I put a ship under human control with the backup solution of a computer in standby mode, but the negative combat values would still subtract from the total, right?

Yes.

For this case I think about a proposal to add a neutral component with the shielding effects against AS but without any control features, maybe called "councillor", is that even possible?

Not currently possible. MC is a monolithic ability, even though it accomplishes two things.

EDIT: I guess it has been patched recently that even if the computer has been destroyed the AS would not take effect, so forget about it...

Yes, it has.

BTW, in any SE4 ship where there are multiple life support and crew quarters, one can put, say, one MC, a bridge, and one LS and one CQ, and the ship will still fly at full speed after getting hit by a virus, and in the new patch, will still be immune to subVersion.

PvK

[ February 10, 2003, 18:25: Message edited by: PvK ]

[PvK]

Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
You can partially counter-act the negative effects of the computer by adding a Combat Bridge. That will add 10 to your ship's attack/defense Ratings.

Phoenix-D

Combat Bridge gives even more bonus than the penalties for the higher-level master computers. Combat Aux Con will add another three, not to mention the sensor and combat support trees are very deep in Proportions, and there are other things that add modifiers.

It is a problem though for the AI, because MC's remain expensive, so it's a big waste that can't be modded around for the AI to be putting MC's on transports and escorts etc. If it weren't for John Sullivan's enthusiasm and work on the AI for Proportions, I'd've given up trying to make a decent AI opponent for Proportions. If I get time to make a new major Version, I think I will probably give the AI a lot of unique abilities to balance around its stupidity, instead of trying to walk tightropes to get it to play with the same rules as humans.

PvK

[Mudshark]

I've noticed that the Terran's are mixing phased shields with regenerating sheilds in the Battleship sizes in a game I'm currently playing (latest proportion) it kind of makes them an easy kill for my PPB equiped ships. Just a small bug.

I love, and play exclusivly your mod PVK

[PvK]

Thanks Mudshark. Hmm, that might be tricky (or a lot of work) to mod away properly, though it could be done. They will eventually get regenerating phased shield generators.

What year is it, and what level of phased weapons are you using on them?

PvK

[oleg]

Originally posted by PvK:

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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
You can partially counter-act the negative effects of the computer by adding a Combat Bridge. That will add 10 to your ship's attack/defense Ratings.

Phoenix-D

Combat Bridge gives even more bonus than the penalties for the higher-level master computers. Combat Aux Con will add another three, not to mention the sensor and combat support trees are very deep in Proportions, and there are other things that add modifiers.

It is a problem though for the AI, because MC's remain expensive, so it's a big waste that can't be modded around for the AI to be putting MC's on transports and escorts etc. If it weren't for John Sullivan's enthusiasm and work on the AI for Proportions, I'd've given up trying to make a decent AI opponent for Proportions. If I get time to make a new major Version, I think I will probably give the AI a lot of unique abilities to balance around its stupidity, instead of trying to walk tightropes to get it to play with the same rules as humans.

PvK

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With 1.84 AI fix I found Proportion' AI rather tough with medium/high bonus. Especially after I moded population*10 for AI pop.minister sake. The major problem is AI still can not mount a takeover of highly defended planets like homeworld.