New pirates shipset

trooper · #1 February 12th, 2003, 11:13 PM

Suicide Junkie, I can't see your file ?

Another long term problem : Is survival the only goal for pirate empires ?

- If you capture planets and keep them, you stop playing as a pirate race.

- If you eradicate a race, you kill the goose that laid the golden eggs, so you are never the winner...

Fyron · #2 February 12th, 2003, 11:16 PM

Pretend you are vikings instead of pirates, and capturing planets is not a problem at all.

DavidG · #3 February 13th, 2003, 12:54 AM

Unless this was changed with ver 1.84 a ships cloaking does turn off if you run out of supplies. (at least it does with P&N's civilian ships and ver 1.78, I just tested it)

DavidG · #4 February 13th, 2003, 12:56 AM

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Originally posted by trooper:
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Another long term problem : Is survival the only goal for pirate empires ?
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Last P&N game I played my goal as a pirate was to piss off the other human players with my invisible ships. It worked great!!

geoschmo · #5 February 13th, 2003, 01:02 AM

Trooper, no one said beign a Pirate was easy.

It is not a race choice you want to take if winning the game is your objective. It's a change of pace and a challange.

Historical examples of pirates are they are small bands of marauders that would not be able to stand up to a fight with the military force of even a small nation state. They exsist by preying on the weak and knowing when to run. They thrive in areas of relative lawlessness and try to eeke out a living without doing enough to warrant a large amount of attention from a major power.

If that is soemthing that appeals to you, be a pirate. If it's not, be a regular race. SJ's mod gives you the choice you don't have with the stock game.

Gesochmo

trooper · #6 February 13th, 2003, 08:12 PM

I don't know if I have a pirate leader mind indeed... I like clear situations and stable, well-organized empires... just the opposite of pirate organizations in fact.

BTW, have someone ever done any pirate dedicated shipset ? I'm thinking about my next shipset, and I'm aiming in that direction, even if pirate life seems not to be my cup of thea. That's a work I dedicate in advance to Suicide Junkie and the great work he has produced for P&N mod.

I've got a clear idea of what kind of look I would like for my ships :

source : http://www.shipschematics.net

Perhaps it will remind to some japanese mangas fans an artist called Leiji Matsumoto...

Maybe I'm totally wrong in my idea to draw such a shipset, because pirates don't build their own ships, if I well understood the philosophy ?

jimbob · #7 February 14th, 2003, 12:28 AM

Hey Trooper,

Nice ship, I'd love to see an entire ship-set!

Also, I'd love to see a ship-set for Nomadic races... oh, and if the pirate thing isn't your cup o' tea, try joining the Nomads! Sure, we don't have "civilian cloaking" ability, but we've the ability to churn out a gob of resources (from remote mining) and our maintenance costs just can't be beat! If you're playing against humans, you can always trade near-zero maint. ships and resource gatherers in exchange for some colony ships (mind you, if you're playing the pirates, you should be boarding colony ships and taking them over in the early game = colonies)

cheers