[OT] Nation bashing

[geoschmo]

Oleg, I am not trying to justify it, nor am I attempting to comment one way or the other on whether what the writer said was the truth or not. I was merely pointing out that being on the opinion page puts it in a different Category then if it were on the front page of the newspaper. Much of what is printed on the opinion pages is actually contrary to the thoughts and beliefs of the newspaper editors. It's a forum for opposing viewpoints, as well as a place where the editors can give their opinion and perspective on the "hard news" printed in other places in the paper.

Even if it's all lies, wheter or not is libel is a discussion for the lawyers, which I am not one of. I do know though that the standards used to determine such a thing are different when it comes to editorial commentary or opinion pages.

Geoschmo

[ February 12, 2003, 13:54: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

[Askan Nightbringer]

Originally posted by Unknown_Enemy:
QUESTION 2
I did read in several french newspapers that there was a widespread french bashing tendancie in the US. Is it true ? Or is it just a lie from "the other side of the hill" ?

I spent two weeks in Paris, loved the place.
Everytime I attempted my pitiful efforts at the native language I was asked...
Are you American?
No.
Are you English?
No.
Ahhh...where are you from?
Australia.
Thats good, I like Australians.

If the Americans bash the French I'm sure its perfectly reciprocated in France.

Askan

[Egregius]

It's a horribly hypocritical and bigoted article, but let's leave it at that.

[Wardad]

LOL,
Friends have told me stories about working and living in France. Other friends have played tourist there. I have heard of the French attitude to the US.

From now on, I will never tell another Itallian, Polish, or other ethnic or nationality joke.

They will all be French jokes.
Finally, I am Guilt Free!!!

[ February 12, 2003, 19:17: Message edited by: Wardad ]

[Unknown_Enemy]

From Geo
UE, no offense intended, but were you born yesterday? The French and Americans have had a love/hate relationship going back hundreds of years.

Indeed. But the current trend seems (s-e-e-m-s) to be even worse than when De Gaulle withdraw from NATO.

I have heard of the French attitude to the US.

Indeed the US president is not the most popular of all. But I am still looking for ANY equivalent articles in any serious french newspaper.

[Omega_Prime]

Oh good, a Nation Bashing thread.

Peru is a fag.

[Atrocities]

Yesterday I just tumbled into this article from the Opinion Journal of the Wall Street Journal. I was so astonished by it that I have to share it.

We have this problem in America, its called Free speech, or LWL for Left Wing Liberalism) Sometimes people aflicted with this disease are prone to speak before they think, or say something that is heavily bais toward an idea or concept that they alone have. LWL is a serious condition that affects millions of Americans, and is both a trajic and disabling condition for those who must endure those with LWL.

LWL suffors do not speak for all Americans, however they think they do.

Whether or not the person who wrote the Opinion, has LWL or not is unknown. The problem is people who suffor from LWL often suffor from other conditions such as SBTT, PM, CILTSI, and OPFIM syndrom.

(SBTT is Speaking Before They Think)
(PM, Potty Mouth)
(CILTSI, Call It Like They See It)
(OPFIM, Often Putting Foot In Mouth) Syndrom.

All though many LWL suffors like to think they are speaking for others and often wish to "save" others from their rights, they are more often sufforing from a combination of LWL, SBTT, and OPFIM. Just ask our former Vice President Al Gore.

One LWL concept is that the French when faced with a decesion to fight or surrender, often surrender. LWL suffors believe that if the UN desides to move upon Sadam militarilly, he will demand the French surrender, and they will.

It is regrettable that LWL suffors can not be treated, and that the condition is spreading throughout the US. It is for this reason that many LWL suffors are attempting to hide their affliction by trying to appear as RWL addicts. (RIght Wing Liberalist) Now RWL addicts are a much more up scale clientle, and are often more refined and speak less. There philosphy is simple, Speak softly, but carry a big stick.

By attempting to pass themselves off as RWL addicts, the LWL suffors hope to undermine the positive advances the RWL addicts have made. It is a shame, but most LWL suffors are control freaks who undermine those who have control.

So my advise to you is to ignor the OPINION, and keep the faith that although the French bash us Americans, we love you, the French like brothers.

A quote from an beloved American:

"A rude Frenchman? Who would have thought?" - Robin Williams

I hear Arabic is a hard language to learn. I wish you, the French, the best of luck.

[ February 12, 2003, 22:15: Message edited by: Atrocities ]