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February 19th, 2003, 06:54 PM
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Re: Atmospheres
Doesn't the P&N atmosphere require large amounts of alcohol and parrots to be present?
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February 19th, 2003, 07:11 PM
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Re: Atmospheres
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quote: Originally posted by solops:
How about an atmosphere that catastrophically ignites if certain types of weapons are used in it?
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Wouldn't that open the way for cheap anti planet weapons? load a cheap gun on a ship, send it to the planet, fire once and boom, planet gone.
just a thought Yes, my point, if you want to capture the planet. The thought here was to have different classes of weapons for troops. Some could be used in some atmospheres but not in others (without Bad Things happening). Also, you might have certain weapons available for each race, according to the atmosphere they breath, that were more effective in that atmosphere than in others. So a CO2 race attacking an Oxy race on an oxy planet is going to be at a disadvantage (If the oxies has researched and deployed the weapons group that gives them an advantage). Lots of permutations from there...
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February 19th, 2003, 09:38 PM
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Re: Atmospheres
"No complex (macroscopic) organisms (that I have ever heard of) can survive without oxygen."
Probably because said organisms tend to die in the presance of oxygen. Given that the earth's atmosphere is now something like 25% O2, that's a bit of a problem for them.
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February 19th, 2003, 10:57 PM
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Re: Atmospheres
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You are not going to go to another galaxy and find that suddenly the laws of physics stop applying or get changed
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There are a number of science fiction stories where this assumption turns out to be false.
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February 20th, 2003, 12:20 AM
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Re: Atmospheres
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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Doesn't the P&N atmosphere require large amounts of alcohol and parrots to be present?
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I knew that was coming.
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O2 is poisonous to those lifeforms because they don't have the enzymes to break down lethal peroxides and superoxides that sometimes form in O2 reactions.
It's also that most other non-O2 pathways don't give enough 'bang for the buck' that larger, complex organisms demand.
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February 20th, 2003, 02:24 AM
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Re: Atmospheres
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quote: You are not going to go to another galaxy and find that suddenly the laws of physics stop applying or get changed
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There are a number of science fiction stories where this assumption turns out to be false. I think it's more than an assumption - although we might not have travelled to other parts of the universe, we have observed them with all manner of telescopes and not noticed any glaring differences.
For example the WMAP probe (whose first results were published Last week) read temperatures differing by just millionths of a degree in the cosmic background radiation from different directions. Were the rules of physics different in different regions of the universe we'd expect to see a lot more variety.
Of course, science fiction gives you the liberty to create your own rules, thank goodness.
A side note concerning the atmosphere: oxygen is actually toxic for humans above a certain partial pressure. The figure US Navy divers came up with was 1.6 bar. That is, if you breathed in pure oxygen at more than 1.6 times atmospheric pressure (or normal air at more than 8 times atmospheric pressure) you'd experience dizziness, vomiting, black-outs and, eventually, death. This is why divers don't usually carry 100% O2 in their tanks as it limits them to staying within 6m of the surface... one man's meat is another man's poison.
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February 20th, 2003, 02:36 AM
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Re: Atmospheres
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quote: You are not going to go to another galaxy and find that suddenly the laws of physics stop applying or get changed
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There are a number of science fiction stories where this assumption turns out to be false. Yes, and those are science fiction. I was not talking about fiction, where pretty much anything can be made up at random.
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