Two Hundred Mines = Dead Fleet. How to Overcome?

Commander G · #1 February 1st, 2001, 08:35 PM

It is interesting to note that all of the counters mentioned for 200 mines requires much more advanced technology than it takes to lay the 200 mines.

I'm in a PBEM game where we soon all have minefield technology. At that point, it will become almost impossible for a long time to invade each others space. I tried to persuade the host to turn off minefield technology, but I could not convince him.

I like the model used by Stars for minefields better. You can try to run them and take your chances or you can slowly, methodically clear them without taking damage. This fits the real-life model better.

What I find incredible in SEIV is that you cannot use beam weapons to destroy them, you must invest research into mines to be able to get the technology to clear them. That does not make sense in my opinion.

rdouglass · #2 February 1st, 2001, 11:04 PM

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Originally posted by Taqwus:
Possibly, sweep with cheap (basically empty) fighters --

That makes me think...Does anyone know if you can mod a fighter component? I remember reading in another thread about someone modding Point Defense to clear / kill mines. Could you mod a fighter weapon to PD and sweep mines? Could be a real cheap way - build fighters (cheap and no maintenance) with these mods and let them do the "sweeping". The only downfall - fighters can't use Warp Points.

lwmweb · #3 February 1st, 2001, 11:42 PM

Well I am playing only against the AI (Max difficulty and bonus), but they do leave nasty mines around. I have specialty ships that carry the various system scanners a repair bay, 2 Point Defense weapons and mine sweeps. I always have at least one and normally two of these along with my larger fleets. I have stared using a command ship that caries scanners PD's sweeps and the computer that lets all ships fight at the level of the highest ship in the fleet. Am I have some ships with experience level Legendary.

Aussie Gamer · #4 February 1st, 2001, 11:56 PM

I have found that if you have enough shielding, say over 1800 points worth, then even the largest mine field will be destryoed against it.
What I have seen is that the mines attack one at a time, so if your ship can withstand that attack, it gets all of it's shieding back for the next attacking mine.

AJC · #5 February 2nd, 2001, 06:21 AM

I might be mistaken ... But I think mines ignore shields....

I usually have 5-8 sweepers in a 30 ship fleet- packed full of armor, and sweeper components.

Aussie Gamer · #6 February 2nd, 2001, 07:10 AM

I don't think that they do ignore shields, not unless the new patch changed that.
I have run a heavily shielded ship into a mine field and it used to survive OK. Maybe this has been changed???

Q · #7 February 2nd, 2001, 12:11 PM

I have the impression, that most of you think mines are to powerful. Well I personally would disagree about that. Sure they are quite efficiant in the early game, but when you have researched mine sweeper component V and dreadnoughts you can easily build a mineweeper, that eliminates 100 mines! If you think about the cost of 100 mines they become quite unattractive in this later stage of the game. So I think it is rather balanced the way it is now.