OT: Alien Contact

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And what says these events weren't predicted? And no, you saying it does not count.

Because IT WAS WRITTEN AFTER THOSE EVENTS TOOK PLACE. Maybe you will see that if I capitalize it.

But you are saying, "I am right because I say everything was postdicted." You have yet to back that up either. Therefore I am right in saying your arguments are not based either. For you to argue that I am wrong you must prove it as well, which you have failed to do thus far.

Sure I have. If you take a look at my previous sentence, that pretty much sums up how you are wrong.

You are taking the points that I bring out and turning them into something I did not mean. It may be my fault for not being more clear but still.
Sure from 4Billion BC to 1914 there were alot. But I wasn't speaking of that time frame. I'm speaking of when mankind was put on the earth to 1914.

Ignoring the erroneous "put on the earth" bit... there were many more earthquakes from about 2 million BC (when the first ancestors of modern humans evolved) to 1914 than there have been from 1914 until the present day.

I have given real proof in that the predictions that were written in the Bible were intold fulfilled in secular history. You have denied this by saying that these things were written after the fact but that is not the case.
You are providing no evidence yourself in order to prove me wrong, you are simply saying that I am wrong because you say so.

Umm... Babylon was long gone by the time the Bible was written. Basic elementary school history lessons will tell you that. Your real proof is not real at all, and certainly not proof. It is completely wrong. The New Testament was mostly written about the time that this Jesus guy was alive, which is millennia after Babylon fell. It is millennia after they sacked Jerusalem. Since you are a Christian, the New Testament is the most important part of the Bible to you, so it is the most relevant part.

Therefore, since you have yet to truely prove one of my points wrong your arguments to do just that have failed and it is a draw.

Very basic knowledge of history is enough to know that your arguments are wrong. I guess not everyone learned stuff in school. Should I go get a 6th grade history book for you to prove these things?

Edit: I am finally done with my part of the discussion. Neither one of us are getting anywhere with it so lets move on.

Only because you ignore basic historical facts so that your beliefs remain valid. Noone knows exactly when past events occured, yet you seem to claim that you do, and you know when they happened. Does the Bible tell you when they happened?

Edit2: And also I believe the forum guildlines prohibited getting into Bible discussions on this forum so I will refrain from doing just that. If others wish to continue conversation feel free.

Forum guidelines? I have not heard of those. I have also seen a number of discussions similar to this one on Shrapnel over the years that were not moderated away. There is no problem continuing this discussion.

Can anyone remember who was the sci-fi author that invented this?

No clue. I don't think Asimov used hyperspace, and Lucas didn't really create anything original. I don't read a lot of older sci-fi, so I couldn't tell you.

Originally posted by Ragnarok:
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Kind of odd when you consider that the Bible was written well after all of those historical events. None of this historical events were predicted at all. The authors of the Bible simply wrote it after the fact, and wrote it as if they were predicting the future.

And what says these events weren't predicted? And no, you saying it does not count.

Wow you guys are just getting confusing now. I'm sure IF will have an answer but it would seem to me the fact (which you don't seem to be disputing) that the bible was written after these events would sort of mean it didn't predict them.

That is indeed a fact. It is a fact that Rags enjoys disregarding, as it directly contradicts his beliefs. Can't possibly look at facts that would do that, now can we?

To Rags:
Me saying it comes from going through school and becoming educated enough to have a basic understanding of when historical events took place. If I were a historian, I could probably cite you references that would dispel that myth that you believe about the Bible predicting actual events quite quickly.