oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

[Captain Kwok]

I don't think we should compare SE:IV to MOO:3 or any other game...

...We should devote our energy towards making suggestions and coming up with new ideas to make Space Empires V the best game it can be. What other game do we the players have a chance to really make a difference in how it's put together? There are many of us here that have had suggestions directly put into patches for SE:IV already. Now let's flex our consumer muscles and gaming brains and make sure that Space Empires V will be a great game!

[dogscoff]

I'm not buying, I'm happy with the Proportioned SE4.

I agree completely. Someone bought me MOO2 a few years ago. Never even installed it.

[QBrigid]

Space Empires is a great game as it allows a great deal of changes to be made by the consumer, and the designers encourage input from the gamers.

Yes, it is a very niche market, however the PR does not have to cost an arm and a leg, there are may ways to market the new game that would cost no cash.

I know a great deal of people who are MOO, Alpha Centari, Birth of the Federation, etc. fans who have never tried SE because they do not know much about it. Each of these games is very different yet I believe Space Empires would appeal to many of them as each game is basicly a strategy game that challenges the mental abilities of the players as opposed to their dexterity.

[oleg]

I really enjoyed Moo2. I liked the sound and animation of colony ship landing, I liked rotating new devices my science guy present. I liked the general view of my beautiful colonies, I liked every bit of space combat !
Now, AFAIK, it is all gone. I may buy Moo3 3-4 months from now, for £5.

[Fyron]

Originally posted by Cirvol:
unfortunately, yes... se4 is a niche

there was never a store release
(which, today is better than even a year ago)

but still bad imho - aaron / malf. needs to call up eb and see if they can get some copies put onto shelves with 'new release' stickers and maybe a follow up review on game review sites that have just finished doing moo3 reviews

(hrm, should i be running malf? - they should call me for consulting work or sumsuch)

Probably not. Going retail brings very little to no profit to the game developer. This is why MM never took SE to retail. MM would most likely end up losing money if that happened.

Originally posted by dogscoff:

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I'm not buying, I'm happy with the Proportioned SE4.

I agree completely. Someone bought me MOO2 a few years ago. Never even installed it.

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You missed out on a lot then. MOO2 is essentially a better game than SE4. The only downside to it is that it lacks the moddability of SE4. This is the only reason why SE4 is currently a better game than MOO2. Well, that, and you can't do as many varied stellar manipulations as in SE4, but that is a minor point. It is kind of like the difference between nVidia and ATI video cards. The ATI card is a better designed card, but the nVidia has far superior drivers, which make it outperform in the end. If only MOO2 was merged with SE4, then we would have one heck of a game.

[ February 27, 2003, 17:29: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Aloofi]

I haven't played any of the MOO games, so I can't compare SE4 to them, but compared the games I have played, SE4 beat the hell out of them in everything but diplomacy.

[Fyron]

You can get MOO2 for rather cheap nowadays. I only payed about $10 for it a few years back. I suggest you try it out. You won't regret it.