oooo aaron! - looks like moo3 is flopping... ;) do se5 faster?

oleg · #1 March 2nd, 2003, 05:49 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
Before I even think about buying the game I'd like to hear someone's impressions of the multiplayer. Is the tcp/ip the only option? Is there a PBEM option at all?

Geoschmo

No PBEM

I read carefully all negative and positive reviews and I will buy Moo3 but few months later. At discount prize and after at least one patch

Arezz · #2 March 3rd, 2003, 03:21 AM

I like MOO 3 and am a die-hard strat fan, having played all the CIV's and the previous MOO's (to death!). I think it's much better than previous MOO's. My only real complaints are I wish I could micromanage more easily. There ARE ways to micromanage just about everything once you learn the ropes. Also I wish the AI was tougher, but as we are finding out you CAN mod moo 3's AI via text files (among other things). Do I like MOO 3 more than SE IV? They are both different enough for me to want to play both. SE IV is a faster paced game, whereas MOO 3 takes more time in my opinion (I've been playing MOO 3 constantly for about 5 days). The diplomacy is much better than SE IV (which is my biggest gripe with it), no cheap loop holes like simply ignoring the AI (I hate that in SE IV) when you want to avoid war or making lop-sided trades (the 2 empty frigates for a colony ship come to mind). But anyway, aside from a few minor complaints, I recommend MOO 3.

Fyron · #3 March 3rd, 2003, 03:30 AM

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The diplomacy is much better than SE IV (which is my biggest gripe with it), no cheap loop holes like simply ignoring the AI (I hate that in SE IV) when you want to avoid war or making lop-sided trades (the 2 empty frigates for a colony ship come to mind). But anyway, aside from a few minor complaints, I recommend MOO 3.

If you don't like those things, don't do them.

Or better yet, play with other humans. It is much more enjoyable that way.

oleg · #4 March 3rd, 2003, 03:33 AM

Glad to see a positive comment about Moo3 from a person who likes SEIV !
Just one question - does it have a big replay value or you can follow the same routine every time you play ?

What I mean is for example if I play one game against Organic race I'll design ships with armor skipping weapons and put twice as many PD, if next time I play against Temporal I will not bother with shields on my ships, etc. These are crude examples but you understand what I mean.

Atrocities · #5 March 3rd, 2003, 04:36 AM

The one thing that I think really sets MOO3 off is the star map. Just fantastic. Three Dementional with starts located as they would be in a true galaxy. Very cool.. Not just starts sitting on a flat surface, but actually 3D is. I will take a screen shot and show you. Very cool to move through a galaxy and twist it and rotate it and zoom in and out. Very cool.

[ March 03, 2003, 02:53: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

Arezz · #6 March 3rd, 2003, 05:42 AM

Oleg-

Big replay value and many different ways to win. The tech tree is never quite the same every game, they made it slightly random every game. So far playing several different games I have actually missed certain techs, and gained new ones. I personally like to blow everyone away as the Ithkul (which is tough, even though they are a "super" race...everyone hates them), but am in the process of trying other ways to win (senate win/discovering the X's). Insane tech tree. So far what I do is colonize like mad and go heavy research (like I do in SE IV). I try to grab a huge area early on and hold choke points, then colonize by "backfilling". I HIGHLY recommend building spies early on (as many as you can afford), for defense & to steal tech esp. research spies. It's hillarious to send 4 research spies against somebody and steal techs right & left, and to stunt their research by sabotage.

Atrocities is right, the star map is awesome. Some people say the graphics suck, but I disagree. The combat graphics are good in my opinion (could be better, but then again the game was largely designed several years ago), but not on par with say a CIV III. I DO recommend a good graphics card (I have a GeForce 3 Ti500, and the game rocks) and a fast processor/decent memory (I have a P4 1.8 GHz w/512MB DDR-333 RAM). That is one downside to the game is the somewhat high system requirements. The only other thing is it gets to be a headache to micromanage once you get 20+ planets (which at that point you should be using the AI to help out). I'm still a die-hard perfectionist and I have a hard time giving control over to the AI, but it does a decent job and I am slowly getting used to it.

Hey Atrocities, I play fair against the AI in SE IV (really I do,lol)

I just think it's a minor thing (diplomacy) that could be fixed in a later patch.

Fyron · #7 March 3rd, 2003, 06:16 AM

Civ III does not have very good graphics, so comparing MOO3 to it does not bode well.

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Hey Atrocities, I play fair against the AI in SE IV (really I do,lol) I just think it's a minor thing (diplomacy) that could be fixed in a later patch.

I didn't realize that Atrocities and I had merged into the same person.

[ March 03, 2003, 04:17: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]