OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible

geoschmo · #1 March 7th, 2003, 01:00 AM

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Originally posted by jimbob:
Dogscoff:

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It's a well known and documented historical fact that Jesus was into Slayer, Megadeth and Def Leppard.

What about Nazareth? Surely he'd have liked Nazareth!

No, he liked the other bands. He was in Nazareth. Lead guitar IIRC. That's why they called him Jesus of Nazareth.

[ March 06, 2003, 23:01: Message edited by: geoschmo ]

DavidG · #2 March 7th, 2003, 01:02 AM

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Originally posted by ZeroAdunn:
Fyron: No, you take Science on faith to be true. Because you can't prove any of it.

Uh yes you can.

tbontob · #3 March 7th, 2003, 01:03 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
And from that follows that those that do not accept Christ will not get into heaven. Hence, a large majority of people get to go to Hell, assuming that Christianity is right.

Of course, no one has yet answered my question as to why Christianity (or whatever their personal belief system is) is right, and all other religions are wrong. What is so special/different about Christianity that makes everyone else wrong? How do you know that your religious beliefs are the right ones, and Muslims, Hindus, Buddhists, Australian Aboriginals, American Indians, non-converted-to-Christianity Africans, etc. are all wrong? And no quote from the Bible could possibly be a valid logical argument for this, as that would require very circular reasoning, which is a huge logical fallacy.

Actually, Fyron has made some goods points.

Some of "us" Christians believe we have the truth and nobody else does.

Does that make us arrogant? I fear it does if we are unable to accept the possibility that other religions can be correct/true as well.

Anyone who has taken a philosophy courses and in particular epistimology knows it it impossible to prove or disprove the existance of God.

And some Christians are going to hate me for this...if you cannot prove the existance of God, how can you prove the existance of the Son of God.

So, I understand the position of the atheist or the agnostic. They have taken a legitimate position which cannot be proved or disproved.

Fyron also has asked a good question about non-Christians going to hell. Many (most?) believe this. But is it really true? Is God so condemning, so constrained that he cannot see the good in non-Christians?

And what about the Jews, God's "chosen people"? They do not believe Jesus is the "Son of God'. Do they go to hell? What about young children? What about people who have not had the exposure to Christianity that we have had? Do they go to hell as well?

And horrors of horrors to Christians...maybe, just maybe one of the other religions are closer to the "truth" about God and his true nature than Christianity.

jimbob · #4 March 7th, 2003, 01:08 AM

Fyron:

Yah, I didn't rate you either way. I don't agree with some of your Posts, but if nobody was willing to explore a contrary view, well, we'd have a very flat/uni-dimensional view on life. We don't have to agree to get along, just as long as you admit at the end that I'm right

Anyhoo, if I were to rate you, it would be on the basis of what you've contributed to the SE community, which I'll add, has been quite significant. From that perspective, I've no choice to hand you a 5. And not just any 5, but one of those shiny ones that SJ and Geo got. If you ever turn your rate-o-meter back on, I'll be sure to polish one up for you.

Cheers, (but you're still wrong)
jimbob

minipol · #5 March 7th, 2003, 01:10 AM

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Originally posted by geoschmo:
No, he liked the other bands. He was in Nazareth. Lead guitar IIRC. That's why they called him Jesus of Nazareth.

If there is one thing you can say about this thread, it's that it's very god for people's imagination and creativity

Just imagine, lead guitar

Who would be playing the drums?

tesco samoa · #6 March 7th, 2003, 01:54 AM

well all i know if he was around now he would be a terrorist. An enemy of the state. What do you think Pat Roberston would think about an arab preaching the word of God. Or even Dubya. ( Jesus was white you know.. maybe even Italian... go to any chuch you see... ) Funny how they treat the arabs like the romans used to treat the christans.

Ummm I will stop there... As I am all boiled up now....

Fyron · #7 March 7th, 2003, 01:57 AM

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Originally posted by ZeroAdunn:
Fyron: No, you take Science on faith to be true. Because you can't prove any of it.

This is an argument of semantics, really, and is not relevant to previous debates. Almost all of science is provable, and has been proven.

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And your veiled insults towards others need to stop.

Veiled insults? If I am going to insult someone, I'll do it openly, not veiled.

[ March 07, 2003, 00:00: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]