OT of OT: Rating Fyron -- no longer possible

[Fyron]

that was a clear intrusion into the Church's philosophical domain.

The Church does not have a philosophical domain. It does not provide logical arguments for why it is right, it just says that what it says is right, period. So, there is no philosophy about it.

But, it is impossible to separate science from Christianity in the early modern period (1500-1789)

My argument was that the Church held back advancement during the European Dark Ages, not during this period. I just could not think of any specific examples of people during the European Dark Ages that were persecuted for thinking for themselves.

[ March 09, 2003, 21:20: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Chronon]

Since we're off topic, I thought I should open a new thread for this discussion. You'll find it here

[Fyron]

This thread is already 100% off topic. Opening a new thread is redundant.

[Aloofi]

Originally posted by Chronon:
the Tychonic system. Tycho Brahe, perhaps the greatest observational astronomer of the time, had created a system that could explain all of Galileo's findings and still "save the appearances" and keep the Earth at the center of the universe. His system had the Earth at the center, the Sun revolving around the Earth, and all the other planets (except our moon, of course) revolving around the Sun.

Wow, amazing. I had never heard of this guy, though I was familiar with his concept.
When did he live?
Where was he from?

And can his theory be the correct one?

[Captain Kwok]

Originally posted by Aloofi:
Wow, amazing. I had never heard of this guy, though I was familiar with his concept.
When did he live?
Where was he from?

And can his theory be the correct one?

No, his theory cannot be correct, although I don't have enough time to explain why at the moment.

However, he died from an infection after his bladder burst (That's why you should never hold it ) while he was making observations one night.

[jimbob]

I think Tyco was Dutch. I remember reading a little blurb about "how does the other half die" which summarized the exit strategies of some of the greatest men of all time (Neo-Feminists: I mean men in exclusion of any feminine personages, it didn't discuss any women at all).

Sir Francis Bacon: froze to death when trying to determine if ice/snow would preserve meat

Genghis Kahn: died of a nosebleed when passed out drunk after his wedding

Tycho: died when his bladder broke because he was at a dinner party when he needed to go. Evidently the dinner parties were hours long, and it was excedingly rude to get up and leave the table. Personally I think that he should have just eaten a couple of double or triple salts to soak the water back out of the bladder

Anyway, I don't know if any of the above are true, it wasn't a peer reviewed article or anything. But it does show you, even the famous can go out in a less than "glorious" way.

[dogscoff]

the exit strategies of some of the greatest men of all time

Kind of an anti-Darwin award. That francis Bacon one sounds too outrageous, especially considering the irony of his name...