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Old March 5th, 2003, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: PBW Star Trek Game

You just hit on the broken "all or nothing" behavior of intel in SE4. Regardless of this being a pseudo-RP game, intel is still not a good thing to have enabled.

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But for this game its something else: we are encourage to roleplay our race and because of this all arguments against it are invalid.
Umm...... no. RP or not, my arguments are still perfectly valid for this game.

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Like Geoschmo is saying, if you want to play the races of star trek the right way, then you have to include intel. If you like it or not.
There are plenty of options that are not related to intel for you to explore in your RP.

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So Sorry Fyron, but if we want to make a star trek universe SEIV game we should include intel.
No, we do not have to have intel to make it a star trek universe. There is no ST equivalent to a lot of the intel projects in SE4. You can't really justify them in that manner.

We already have Stellar Manipulation disabled. There is some ST basis for some of the Stellar Manipulations, but that tech was still disabled. So, you can't hardly use the fact that there is a little espionage in ST to argue for the inclusion of intel in this game and maintain any sort of consistency.
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Old March 6th, 2003, 02:29 AM

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How about a compromise. Include Intel... But your not allowed to use PPP or ship capture. But everything else is game.
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Umm... Whats the game called
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Hmm found it.

It was not showing up on the open games list.....
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So, any thought about using a random map with common starting points as opposed to a strictly random map? Would be nice if we could have a little breathing room to get our empires established before the bloodshed starts.

Also, here's how I plan on playing the Borg. They will view all of you ultimatly as either targets for assimilation, or obstacles to erradicate. But hey, truth be told that's how you are all gonna view each other too since the object is to win the game.

But that doesn't mean I won't make treaties. The Borg have been known to make temporary alliances when faced with what they deem to be a greater threat. A lot will depend on how strong your race appears to be to the Borg. The Borg are not suicidal as a race. They tend to pick on the weaker races and those without strong allies to defend them.

But just as they will make treaties when it suits them, they will not hesitate to break those treaties and attempt to assimilate you if they feel the need for the treaty has passed. This is not personal, it's just them being the Borg.

Loyalty and honor are irrelevant. The only question is whether a potential ally can be of benefit to the Borg as an ally more than they can as an adversary.

Conversly you may find having the Borg as an ally will benefit you if you are being threatened by a race that the Borg seeks to assimilate. But the Borg do not "care" whether they are an asset to you, only what you can do for them. Again, nothing personal.

Emotional arguments will have no value to the Borg. Requests for assistance will be ignored or rejected unless you can demonstrate to the Borg that giving this assistance will somehow benefit the Collective. But if you can demonstrate to the Borg that they will benefit by working towards your goals, they will throw all their effort into the objective.

If all of you band togehter and make it your goal to erradicate the Borg as soon as you find them, it's gonna make my time in the game very short. But that's ok, that's kind of why I picked them.

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Yes, a random map with set starting points would work great. I agree with this.

The game name is: An All Star Trek (Game)

Odd name?? Why did you name it this?
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