PBW - Newbie Galactic Combat II Crisis Forum.

Ruatha · #1 March 16th, 2003, 10:44 PM

Hmm. Proportions mod... Need to look into that.
The only mod I've used is FQM DL and SEIV Committe mods.

What does proportions do?

[ March 16, 2003, 20:45: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

CaptRR · #2 March 16th, 2003, 10:51 PM

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Originally posted by Ruatha:
Hmm. Proportions mod... Need to look into that.
The only mod I've used is FQM DL and SEIV Committe mods.

What does proportions do?

From what I can tell it adds some Newtion physiscs of a sort. Basicly you can load up a ship with Engines to make it really fast, but every weapon you add slows it down.

Also it looks like planets are alot harder to kill in proportions, and home worlds play a much bigger part. Plus you can't transport insanely huge amounts of population, and population grows much slower. So you will tend to have your home worlds, and then Colonies that could not survive without the Home Worlds. Then again killing a home world is like attacking fortress. Plan to loose alot of ships in planetary assults.

Ruatha · #3 March 16th, 2003, 10:57 PM

Count me in then.

tbontob · #4 March 16th, 2003, 11:06 PM

CaptRR

I'd be interested in joining too.

Always wanted to try proportions.

Need to ask: What is the policy on replacement players?

CaptRR · #5 March 16th, 2003, 11:24 PM

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Originally posted by tbontob:
CaptRR

I'd be interested in joining too.

Always wanted to try proportions.

Need to ask: What is the policy on replacement players?

Well the AI sucks with Proportions(at least from what I heard and seen). Dropping players is almost a given considering the length of the game. If someone drops for say personal reasons I'll search for a replacement player.

If they leave becouse of in game reasons, I think we should let the AI finish it off. Basicly we will have to take it on a case by case basis, and I'll put it before all the players to decide the course of action when it happens.

Geckomlis · #6 March 17th, 2003, 07:15 AM

Been itching to try Proportions on PBW. I am in too - if CaptRR will turn events off? I really hate events.

I am sad to see NGC2 go down also. It was my first PBW game. RIP.

Gecko

tbontob · #7 March 17th, 2003, 06:19 PM

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Originally posted by CaptRR:

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Originally posted by tbontob:
CaptRR

I'd be interested in joining too.

Always wanted to try proportions.

Need to ask: What is the policy on replacement players?

Well the AI sucks with Proportions(at least from what I heard and seen). Dropping players is almost a given considering the length of the game. If someone drops for say personal reasons I'll search for a replacement player.

If they leave becouse of in game reasons, I think we should let the AI finish it off. Basicly we will have to take it on a case by case basis, and I'll put it before all the players to decide the course of action when it happens.

I am still wrestling whether to join or not.

On the plus side. I admire Ruatha's courage to call what was happening in the game. And to take what must have been a very hard step of cancelling it. It would have been easy to let things slide and nobody would have been the wiser.

So, IMO, the fact that Ruatha is a co-host or subsidiary host is a definite plus. If things are not right, I feel confident he will call it.

Secondly, a part of my storyline of the in-game stories can still continue...the escapades of Eston. Basically, that storyline was not dependant on what happened in the game. One or two details may have to be changed, but that can be declared at the beginning of the next installment.

That does, of course, assume we are going to have in-game stories.

What do you guys think?

Finally we come to replacement players.

I understand the TDM mod is a very good mod for AI's. I am guessing there is no easy way to combine the TDM mod and Proportions in the game.

Historically, replacement players are not easy to get. I have the impression that most if not all hosts will accept any warm body or what appears to be a warm body. This is understandable since asking for more details takes time. And time is not what the host has since traditionally the game must go on. And the more game turns, the more injury to the abandoned empire and the empires around it.

So, maybe it would be appropriate to have an understanding that the game would be "held" until a suitable replacement player is found.

This way appropriate questions can be asked to have some assurance that
a) cheating will not take place (such as 1 player playing two or more empires)
b) abuse will not take place (such as a player and a replacement player are close friends with an understanding of mutual support to the exclusion of others).

My feeling is if a person must cheat to win, the game is not worth playing.

Also, my feeling is if the rules are used in such a way to give a player an unnatural advantage (abuse), then the game is not worth playing.