Stealth and Scattering Armor bonus

[Ward]

I almost forgot: The break even point is easy find. Just give those two sides into eqation. That't the exact break-even point.

[Suicide Junkie]

Is your damage dealt supposed to be the effective hitpoints of the ship, rather than just any number?

[DirectorTsaarx]

Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:

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I don't think SJ was claiming the 187.5 value was the break-even point, that was just a specific value for the effect of an extra 15% combat defense bonus, and he was comparing that to the break-even point he'd originally referenced.
(yadda yadda yadda - editing my own original quote... )

Actually I was. That number takes into account the change in hitpoints, and the ECM bonus of 15%.

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Great. Now I'M getting confused by the whole thing. And I'm an engineer - I should be used to arcane cost-benefit analysis formulas!

[Fyron]

I know he can be annoying at times. "Ragging" is something he seems to particularly enjoy. My prefered method of pointing it out to him is to speak to others about him in a slightly disapointed, patronizing way. The way you would speak about a particularly rambunctious child to other adults. Discussing it with him standing right there, but not directly acknoledging him as if he isn't. He hates that.

If I was as petty as Geo, I would respond (with more than this not-such-a-response) to that. As I am not, all you get is

[Ward]

Suicide Junkie:
That depends on what you want to calculate. The damage dealt is the damage your enemy deals you. I intenionally left it there so that you can also include enemy's firepower(that also an answer to your question). This can give you more accurate view. Yes, the formula works with amplifying and decreasing basic damage. At first I thought two things that later turned out to be false: That I can't use "virtual hit points" instead of to hit(ot to defend) %. With the second I will not bother anyone until someone finds that possibility(It has something to do with very big or low chances of hitting). I hope I answered your question well enough.

[ March 20, 2003, 19:03: Message edited by: Ward ]

[Suicide Junkie]

If you are trying to maximize the defense strength of your ship (using a given amount of space, of course), then the amount of damage the enemy fires at you per round dosen't matter for shields and stealth/scattering armor.

And whenever the to-hit chances get locked at 1% or 99%, then our formulae will certainly be off.

[PvK]

These are good formulae if you know enough math to appreciate what they are saying as a general principle. In practice though, you almost never have a reliable figure for enemy's chance to hit you, and even if you had full information, it's not a single number, but a probablility distribution, and a different one for each enemy design, experience level, weapon, etc.

So, this illustrates the theory, and would be a reasonable system for an improved AI to use, and if you're really confused and think this will help your designs, it'll give you something to give you advice, but there isn't really a valid formula that will tell you what the best thing to do is.

PvK