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March 20th, 2003, 12:59 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
They need engines to get combat movement. Combat movement = 1/2 strategic movement, rounded down.
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March 20th, 2003, 01:05 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
Fighters can also use Afterburners, which give them additional movement in combat but not in the system map. Only one Afterburner will work on a fighter, though.
Fyron, you happen to know if Afterburners actually use supplies like they say they do? If so... when? 10 supplies is a lot for a fighter!
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March 20th, 2003, 02:07 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
no, supply use for combat movement is broken.
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March 20th, 2003, 02:20 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
Also, I'm pretty sure that combat movement = 1/2 strategic movement rounded up.
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March 20th, 2003, 02:43 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
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Originally posted by Suicide Junkie:
Also, I'm pretty sure that combat movement = 1/2 strategic movement rounded up.
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Oops! It is indeed rounded up. I was thinking of standard movement points divided by engines per move, which is what gets rounded down.
No supplies are used in combat movement. It is not "broken" because combat movement was not meant to use supplies. It might be better if it did, but that does not make it "broken".
Afterburners do not give your fighters enough movement points to make useful fighters without engines. 
[ March 20, 2003, 00:45: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]
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March 20th, 2003, 10:19 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
To answer the question: Technically no, fighters do not require engines and the game allows you to create them without engines. They DO require a cockpit and a fighter life support and cannot be created without these. Amazingly, without engines, fighters still get 1 strategic movement. I haven't tested it in combat, but they should get 1 combat movement too (1/2 * 1 = 1/2, rounded up to 1). Fighters without engines won't have any supplies either, so they won't be able to fire their weapons. Are there any real uses for engineless fighters? Probably not, maybe in an extreme case they could be used as PD fodder to soak up hits for other fighters or missiles or something, but that's probably stretching it because of their low movement.
Now on a practical note, and probably what you were really asking, is yes, they were intended to have engines to move and carry supplies as stated by others here.
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March 20th, 2003, 10:57 AM
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Re: Do fighters require engines?
Fighters only get 1 strategic move if they don't have any components that generate strategic move points. If they have 1 comp with strategic move, but their engines per move is high enough so that they strategic move can't generate a point, the fighters do not get that minimum 1 move point.
[ March 20, 2003, 08:57: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]
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