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March 22nd, 2003, 05:40 PM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
neomax.... I believe that the reason for all these debates is that we are all confertable with each other now. and pretend were at a coffee shop or pub when we chat here. The opinions differ as does the delivery. But if some one is offended by a post they are informed and given a chance to defend it or re type it after looking at what they typed.
I tried to stay out of the debates... But hey you read this site every day... And your friends are in a heated conversation. One must join in.
So Neomax. I hope that you and all the new people stay around this forum so that one day we can become friends.
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March 22nd, 2003, 06:23 PM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
"And Atrocities, NK is rattling it's sabre in order to LIVE, not get love and attention from CNN. The NK demands Food and Oil shipments for it to abandon it's nuclear program entirely."
And this gets laughed at because that's the exact same thing it had before. It just wants more to not break its agreements now.
The way I see it, it worked like so:
US: quit your nuke program, we'll send X amount of food and fuel oil.
NK: OK
NK 1 year later (resumes nuke program)
NK years later: we're starting again. Nyaa.
US: OK. No food for you.
NK: WHAT?
US: you heard me.
NK: Give us 2X food and fuel oil and we'll stop..
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March 22nd, 2003, 07:42 PM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
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Originally posted by neomax:
Oh, I am just wondering how could a thread just like this one appear on a space strategy game forum. I suggest that you American guys discuss this topic on the Usenet group soc.culture.china or soc.culture.korean or soc.culture.japan. It will be interesting. It will be MUCH MORE INTERESTING for you to know the extream nationalism in China and Korea.
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Well I was going to say the reason is that everyone here is pretty mature but since someone seems to have rated you a one I'll rephrase that to most people here are pretty mature so it makes for a good discussion. I know other forms (such as any forum on F1 racing) are so full of imature people name calling they are not much fun. (PS If you know a good F1 forum e-mail me. )
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March 23rd, 2003, 05:57 AM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
TC, are you sure on the not signing, From the books I've read, I've been under the impression that we (UN) only have an armistice with them, and yes, the war could start again at any time because there really was no signed agreement to end the war. I'll have to do some research, I could have sworn we have an armistice..
Neomax, The members of this forum discuss a lot of topics on SE4 and game related items. However, Off Topic discussions do appear once in awhile by the members, and its enjoyable to discuss these OT subjects with the friends you've made here at the forum. That's what is enchanting with the members here, you can discuss the game and sometimes other OT subjects. I think that after you've been here awhile you'll see that for yourself.
If you think this topic is OT, I can see you've never been to the cantina
just some ideas mac
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March 23rd, 2003, 06:04 AM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
I agree, tangling with NK, brings up a whole new set of diplomatic and potential excalation problems. China is NK's big brother and so any war with them must take into account the possibility of involving China, more so then the Soviets. I don't believe China approves of a lot of things NK does, but they are close allies, so therefore, one must tread warily in this area and obtain a commitment from China of non interferance if the balloon goes up.
just some ideas mac
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March 23rd, 2003, 06:25 AM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
TC,
Military History, April, 2003, page 73
"With the final signing of the armistice agreement at Panmunjom on July 27th, 1953, Pork Chop hill became part of the demilitarized zone between North and South Korea..."
If that is the case then maybe the UN signed but SK didn't?
just some ideas Mac
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March 23rd, 2003, 05:40 PM
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Re: Debate on North Korea.
The NK leaders are power mad control freaks. There is nothing they would enjoy more than extending that control beyond the present boundries.
They rattle their sabers because they do not know how to bargin or show gratitude (it is a weakness to them).
Their control at home has destroyed the economy, food production and the peoples hope. Let us pray they collapse from internal rot before they cause more trouble.
NK - Bush, Do Not go there.
I hope and pray Bush can be stalled until the next election.
MAC is right, we have no pretext to intervene.
NK may be a potential threat. It is a matter of perception.
A USA that is aggressive, beligerant, and militeristic will be seen as a threat by most nations. Should we teach the world that pre-emption is acceptable behavior? What would become of us when we are in decline?
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