OT: computers

[Gryphin]

I have to Agree with Iorn Giant
I have been shopping at www.pcsforeveryone.com
for at least 5 years. Take a look at their Shuttle pc. www.shuttle.com
I just bought one for Pooh Star. It is about 6 x 7 x 12 inches. Not much room for expansion but for non graphics intensive work it is superb.

If not, then I feel DELL is a good buy.

[Fyron]

That is not the issue we are talking about, that is a cooling issue that you need to adapt to the individual processor.
An intel processor has different fan mounts than an AMD.
What we are talking about is prestanda. Ofcourse you have to adapt the cooling to the heat, that is obvious. There are millions of AMD processors running perfectly!

The issue I was talking about is very relevant to building your own PC, which we were indeed talking about.

I never said anything even remotely related to AMDs not being able to work. Nothing in my post even comes close to such a statement.

[Ruatha]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

quote:

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That is not the issue we are talking about, that is a cooling issue that you need to adapt to the individual processor.
An intel processor has different fan mounts than an AMD.
What we are talking about is prestanda. Ofcourse you have to adapt the cooling to the heat, that is obvious. There are millions of AMD processors running perfectly!

The issue I was talking about is very relevant to building your own PC, which we were indeed talking about.

I never said anything even remotely related to AMDs not being able to work. Nothing in my post even comes close to such a statement.

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Then you should also mention that it aswell draw more power and so costs more in the long run.
And the issue about thermal safety features built into the processors.
And ofcourse the difference in the chipsets (a real issue), what about rambus memory? Colour of the chips? status? etc etc.

When someone asks what processor should I get they usually means wich processor gives me best prestanda.
The one starting this thread talked about brand computers and weren't specifically talking about putting his own computer together, quite the opposite. All brand computers come equipped with ample cooling devices.
You've got to differ between what is an issue and what is showing off.

Fyron, try someting new:
Don't get the Last post in an argument/discussion! Anxiety?

(Sorry if I'm ranting but its 02.30 in the night, I'm tired and aren't allowed to go to sleep, work related)

[ April 02, 2003, 00:27: Message edited by: Ruatha ]

[Dawn Falcon]

AMD have a very good and detailed guide to installing Athlon processors downloadable from their website. VERY good.

Basically, read that and make sure you get an approved fan. Get a nForce 2 or KT-333 or KT-400 chipset motherboard. Make sure you have a 350+ Watt PSU.

That solves the AMD "problem".

If you're going branded, can't really help unless you're a UKer. The companies I'd recomend are all UK-only

[ April 02, 2003, 01:25: Message edited by: Dawn Falcon ]

[Thermodyne]

Based on the first post, I think he needs a boxed computer. This means he should buy the
fasted Dell that he can afford. He was an OC’er, he would not have made the post. Building
your own, results in more speed for buck spent. But can be a problem for someone that is not
up to speed on trouble shooting problems.

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by rextorres:

If you're adventurous you can get an AMD cpu because they are easier to overclock so you can get more bang for your buck.

A good place start to get information is

http://www.tomshardware.com

BULL CRAP. OC'ing a Rdram P4 is as easy as it gets. Kick the FSB up and let her rip. No
memory timings to work out, and no split bus multipliers to trip you up.

And Tom’s is the laughing stock of the PC forum world. He switches sides faster than
processors go obsolete. Try this place if you want to get some fair answers.
http://www.sharkyforums.com/

[Dawn Falcon]

Heh...

I'd recomend [H]ard OCP and Annandtech over Toms or SE.

The SE forums used to be a pit when I posted there, although admitedly that was some time ago.