[OT] Military (non-political) discussion of Iraq war

[Alpha Kodiak]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
I’m not sure that all 25mm’s are chain guns. But it is a tank buster so long as the range is short
and it has access to the less armored areas of the T-72. Depleted Uranium cuts steel armor like
butter. And T-72’s are fire traps. The shell storage is problematic, and most units have had the interior bLast doors removed to improve loading reliability. The Soviets had trouble maintaining this system, so I doubt the Iraqi’s were able to keep them functioning. Also, many marks have die cast road wheels, which are susceptible to .5” fire. That has to be one of those “what where they thinking of” engineering blunders.

Interesting info on the T-72. I found this LINK for some information on the Bradley's gun system. It is the M242 Bushmaster 25mm chain gun. Apparently, they have developed some pretty potent ammo for it.

[Axel]

I am reminded of the historical scenario of the battle of Smolensk (a battle memorialized in the wonderful Avalon Hill game, Panzergruppe Guderian). The crux of the German strategy against the Russians was Enkesselment (encirclement) in which the rapidly moving panzer columns would outpace their own slower infantry divisions, and to some degree their own supply lines, in order to outflank the enemy dug into and around cities and towns. The Infantry would slowly come up and close the net, but for a time the panzers would be vulnerable as the irregular, "untried" Russian units that were bypassed would harrass and cut their supply lines.

[tesco samoa]

http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm

Great web site.

The t-72 is out classed in this war.

Now if the American's do attack Sryia...

What weapons do they have.

I assume t-72 's , variations of the t-55 , and modern artie..

Most likely on par with IDN

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by tesco samoa:
http://www.fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/land/row/t72tank.htm

Great web site.

The t-72 is out classed in this war.

Now if the American's do attack Sryia...

What weapons do they have.

I assume t-72 's , variations of the t-55 , and modern artie..

Most likely on par with IDN

BBC says this: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/788180.stm

[Thermodyne]

http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/syrscud.htm

Shakes head and thinks that these people are so stupid.

[primitive]

Originally posted by Thermodyne:
http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/syrscud.htm

Shakes head and thinks that these people are so stupid.

I don't understand your comment.
Who are the stupid ones, the institute or the Syrians ?

[Thermodyne]

Originally posted by primitive:

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Originally posted by Thermodyne:
http://cns.miis.edu/research/wmdme/syrscud.htm

Shakes head and thinks that these people are so stupid.

I don't understand your comment.
Who are the stupid ones, the institute or the Syrians ?

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Anyone that thinks these weapons are worth having. They really only work on civies, and often strike the side that set them loose. They are not WMD, they are terror weapons.