Simultaneous game issue

JLS · #1 May 8th, 2003, 12:33 AM

You can set the option for a password entree, when coming off hibernate or sleep.

Fyron · #2 May 8th, 2003, 12:48 AM

JLS:
I will ask you not to post any racist jokes in the future. They are always offensive.

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Originally posted by JLS:
You can set the option for a password entree, when coming off hibernate or sleep.

Which eliminates the possibility of others being able to use the PC, which is wholely counter-productive.

JLS · #3 May 9th, 2003, 12:18 AM

Understood.
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I was answering your question, I did not realize at the time were you were heading.

I was poking fun of my self, only.

I Meant no disrespect to others.

It won't happen again.

[ May 08, 2003, 23:58: Message edited by: JLS ]

JLS · #4 May 9th, 2003, 12:26 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
JLS:
I will ask you not to post any racist jokes in the future. They are always offensive.

quote:
Originally posted by JLS:
You can set the option for a password entree, when coming off hibernate or sleep.

Which eliminates the possibility of others being able to use the PC, which is wholely counter-productive.

O'Kay, I was not considering productivity, just securing the PC; so I may get a bite to eat and no one will fiddle with my game turn.

In regards to shuting the PC down, my kids don't even turn the lights off behind them

[ May 09, 2003, 00:21: Message edited by: JLS ]

QBrigid · #5 May 9th, 2003, 04:22 AM

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When Saint Patrick was converting Ireland, he was baptizing a Chieftain, when Patrick began the ceremony, he jammed his staff in the ground, accidentally spearing it through the foot of the Chieftain, at the conclusion of the ceremony, Patrick realized what had happened and asked the Chieftain, who was in extreme pain, why he had not said something, the chieftain replied, "I thought it was part of the ceremony."

FYI--The exact story is as follows:

"When about baptise the King [Aongus], Patrick thrust his pastoral staff, by its sharp iron point, into the earth-as he thought. But it was through the foot of Aongus he thrust it. He discovered his grave mistake only when the ceremony was finished. "Why did you not tell me this?" he cried to the king. And Aongus answered simply, "Because I thought it was part of the ceremony."

This is copied directly from page 117 of the book "The Story of the Irish Race, A popular History of Ireland, Written by Seumas MacManus.

So you see, it is not a racist joke at all but a documented history. I'm sure JLS intended no offence.

tbontob · #6 May 9th, 2003, 08:08 AM

Anyways back to the topic.

It would appear that there is some concern that by saving a game in "midstream" may give information to a hacker to do serious damage to the game or give himself an unfair advantage.

I do know the turn is encrypted when it is saved as a .plr file.

For 20 years I was a Mac user and we had programs that could look at the structure of the program in memory and on a floppy or hard drive.

I know this because I did it. I was curious about the structure of the program and the way the data was saved. And the "savegame" files were not encrypted. If they were, it would would have made it immeasureably harder to decipher the data and probably would have stopped me in my tracks.

I would imagine those programs are still available for the Mac and for the PC as well. So the dedicated "enthusiast" should be able to locate and print out the program which is in memory.

He should also be able to locate and print out the "savegame" .plr file in whatever format he wishes. I was particularly fond of two, but hexadecimal was my favourite with ordered columns of hex data. But as mentioned the .plr file is encrypted so the dedicated "enthusiast" would have to have the skills of a cryptologist as well to make any sense of the data.

One way to break a code would be to make just a single change and compare the two results. That probably will not work now as the the algorithyms used have become much more sophisticated to make savegame files completely different from the earlier Version of the saved .plr file which was saved for comparison purposes.

What we need from MM is the ablity to save an incomplete move with the use of a completely different algorthym. Someone who takes weeks and even months to decipher the savegame algorithm for a incomplete move will not be able to use it to decipher the final .plr file.

Just a few cents worth.

Fyron · #7 May 9th, 2003, 08:16 AM

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So you see, it is not a racist joke at all but a documented history. I'm sure JLS intended no offence.

Not necessarily accurate. And, just because something is historical does not mean it can not be racist. Also, the way in which JLS started that whole line was indeed racist. Try reading the whole thread.