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May 17th, 2003, 05:57 AM
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
"One minute it's used to describe the process of microevolution, and the next it's referring to the hypothesis of macroevolution--which indeed deals with the origin of species."
But not the origin of life, which is a different and much stickier problem.
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
Micro-Evolution: T(n+1)=T(n)+1
Origin of life: T(0)=0
Macro evolution: T(n)=n ?
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May 17th, 2003, 09:08 AM
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
So what were getting at is this:
Evolution (of any sort) can only apply once you have an (living?) organism that can copy itself almost perfectly (doesnt have to be a cell or anything we recognise today)
Micro evolution is short term, such as differences between wild and tame farm animals. It is evolution within the same "species"
Macro evolution is evolution over long term, such as differences between birds and mammals, plants and animals. Evolution between "species"
NB: I dont like the word "species", its not very accurate over evolutionary time. But i cant think of a better term.
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May 17th, 2003, 09:14 AM
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
Heres a poser then:
Can non-living things evolve? E.g. Computer programs. What is actually needed for evolution?
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
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Originally posted by Primogenitor:
Heres a poser then:
Can non-living things evolve? E.g. Computer programs. What is actually needed for evolution?
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Of Course, else how could you have MC III from MC II ? 
[EDIT] Amd even more important, by who would the shrike have been created?
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troops. evolution also means manuvers with troops.
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Re: "Real" ringworlds
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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
"One minute it's used to describe the process of microevolution, and the next it's referring to the hypothesis of macroevolution--which indeed deals with the origin of species."
But not the origin of life, which is a different and much stickier problem.
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