Space Empires V or ridiculous lawsuits? What is the connection?

[Fyron]

Fyron, your one sided view of freedom sets my teeth on edge.

Restricting my right to knock your block off for your damn narrow views is another sure path to tyranny.

I fail to see what is so narrow about it... you have to be allowed to make a case. What some people were advocating is to not even allow people to make certain classes of cases. This is what I said would be a bad thing. I never once said that no cases should ever be thrown out of court. Frivolous lawsuits should be thrown out. But, some people were advocating doing something along the lines of setting up specific rules for what cases can and can not even be made to a court. A case has to be made in the first place to be thrown out, you know. They have to at least state what the case is to the judge. You just misinterpreted what I said.

Yes everyone has the right to initiate a lawsuit but they sure don't have the right to steal money from my pockets (ie. tax dollars) by being allowed to proceed with frivolous lawsuits. Judges should and must throw out those frivilous ones. Most countries have no trouble finding the frivolity line.

Most frivolous lawsuits do get thrown out. There are just a lot of them, and a lot of judges out there, so some leak through.

[tbontob]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
I am not quite sure you entirely understand what an appeal is. An appeal is when you lose a case in a lower court and then submit it for a re-ruling to a higher court. No method of ruling on a case can ever in any way shape or form prevent someone from filing an appeal. The only thing that can (and does) prevent some cases from being appealable is when it is ruled on by the highest level of court that will see such a case. So, if you are a US citizen, a case in which you are suing someone can't very well be appealed to the US Supreme Court (unless you are making a suit that would begin there, which is a special case) because it does not hear petty (as in, not against government officials or government agencies (or states themselves ) law suits. I hope I explained that correctly. IANAL, afterall (and if you don't know what that acronym means, not my problem - search on Shrapnel ).

Judges do use common sense. But, common sense is entirely subjective, and what seems common to you is not necessarily common to everyone.

Actually Fyron that is not correct. You can win a case and still appeal the amount of damages.

Courts often give judgement with $1.00 in damages. It is a way of saying "You are right, but it is a frivolous claim."

Or they may give judgement for $1,000,000 for a very simple injury like a cut finger and the plaintiff doesn't think it enough so he appeals the decision.

Or it may be a fair award by most standards and the winner feels it is not enough.

I am not sure what method your highest Court of Appeals uses in deciding what appeals to hear, but I would suspect that you first need to "Apply for leave to appeal". If leave is granted (which is tantamount to saying they think the appeal has merit), then they can appeal.

[Fyron]

Ok, so it was not comprehensive, but it wasn't technically wrong. I just missed one part of appealing. And as I said, IANAL (I like little-used acronyms that only some people would get ).

[ May 31, 2003, 22:33: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[narf poit chez BOOM]

i don't advocate throwing out a case without hearing it, i advocate judges with more common sense. i also think we need a more unbiased media. looks like the coffee case wasn't frivilous after all. with 6 billion people on the world, we need a way to get information fast. maybe everyone should have a personalized website?

[Fyron]

Judges do use common sense. But common sense isn't really that common. What seems common sense to you is not necessarily common sense to everyone else.

Most frivolous law suits do get thrown out. Only a small number of them slip through. There are just so many cases that the number of frivolous ones seems huge.

[Wardad]

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