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Old May 23rd, 2003, 06:13 AM

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very very cool picture
dunno if such thing exists but perharps its a curved U-shaped camera lens used there?
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Old May 23rd, 2003, 06:18 AM
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Taz, he used the [ code] UBB tags (much like url and quote tags).
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Old May 23rd, 2003, 06:21 AM

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Thanks Fyron.

Taz puts on his to-do list: research UBB code tags.
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Old May 23rd, 2003, 08:37 PM
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That makes sense slick, but it still looks wrong to me. Shouldn't the planets be side to side instead of top to bottom? I thought maybe the image was sideways, but then the shadow on earth would be wrong and the cloud bands on jupiter too.

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Contrary to popular misconception, not EVERY planet's orbit lies in the exact same plane; there are angular differences between each (and it tends to follow a pattern, IIRC ... the inner planets further and further off of the plane of, say, Neptune's orbit).

As to their placement, I would suspect the following:

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(The arrow denotes the direction of the camera; the periods are only to maintain vertical spacing)

Mainly due to the differences in what's "lit up" and what'snot; Earth is in almost peerfect profile, turned JUST a little away form the camera -- so the Sun should be not-quite directly to the right of the Earth, in terms of direction.

However, Jupiter is almost face-on to us; that means the angle from the camera to the sun, relative to Jupiter, mustn't be all THAT large.



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My, do we live in that little blue sphere?

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Ok, if I sound skeptical, I am not at all. I have no doubt this picture is legit, I am just not thinking about it correctly to understand what I am seeing. I had forgotten the planets were in different planes, so that explains the over/under. But I still am not seeing it totally right.

From your descriptions, and from the angle of the sunlight on the planets I made this graphic. It's not to scale of course, but does it correctly represent the relationship of the planets in the photo?



If it does, shouldn't Jupiter be way smaller than it is in the picture? At this angle and magnification, Jupiter should appear farther away from the camera then it does from us here on earth. And yet Jupiter from earth is just a small colored dot.

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Yes, the planets would be a lot smaller than your dots.

You have it right. See the map that is essentially the same as yours at:

this web page

It's dots are also way off scale, as is necessary for them to be visible.

Yes, Jupiter is much farther away than the Earth, but they are both very far away, so the absolute difference in size from parallax between the two isn't that great, because the effect of parallax isn't directly proportional to distance. Also, Jupiter is a lot bigger than the Earth.

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