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		I'm in the midst of my first really ambitious SEIV project - the Highliner Mod.  I'm posting the current readme file below to convey the general concept of the mod.  Your feedback is very much appreciated. 
 
CURRENT STATUS... 
 
Data files - 66% completed (components and facilities still in work, most other basic data files already completed or left unchanged) 
 
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[see updated readme further up the thread] 
  
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		I read the readme and I like most of the new concepts.           
Sounds good;~ General Woundwort 
     
 
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		Only actual ships can drop troops. Ships can not be carried. So, your fighter/drone "system ships" can't invade planets.     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Oooo. Your ships can land on planets. That's cool. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		CURRENT STATUS... 
Data files - 70% completed (components and facilities still in work, most other basic data files already completed or left unchanged)
 
AI/race files - 10% (some changes made in generic AI files, others will follow once data changes complete)
 
Image files - 100% (intro screens and substitute highliner/worldship pics complete)
  
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Only actual ships can drop troops. Ships can not be carried. So, your fighter/drone "system ships" can't invade planets.     
			
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 Forgive me for being obtuse, but has this already been tried?  If it has, I can still work around this limitation; but if it hasn't I'd like to see if it would work. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		Fighters can not land on enemy planets and can not travel through warp points. Ships can not be carried in cargo, and can not land on any planets. Troops can not exist in space at any time. They can only be in cargo, either on a ship or a planet (yours or an enemy's). 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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Fighters can not land on enemy planets and can not travel through warp points. Ships can not be carried in cargo, and can not land on any planets. Troops can not exist in space at any time. They can only be in cargo, either on a ship or a planet (yours or an enemy's).
			
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 Granted.  But my question is, can Fighters (my "Riders") have Cargo hold components and therefore carry cargo? Has that been tried? 
  
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		It has, and it doesn't work. Cargo can't carry cargo. 
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
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		OK, so fighters can't carry cargo.  That scotches my original Colonizer Rider idea... but there are ways around this sort of thing...       
The changes made by Ed Kollis gave me the way out.  Within your own planet type you can have two levels of colonizer - the big Highliner mount you start out with, and an "auto-colony" module that can fit on a Rider (this must be researched).  The "auto-colony" represents raw materials and droids that set up the equipment and structures of the colony... just no population.         That your Highliner must provide when it happens to be in the neighborhood.
 
SCENARIO - A highliner with lotza pop in cargo, and a bunch of Rider Auto-colonizers docked, shows up in a system.  The Riders are launched and set up Auto-colonies in every compatible world-type in the system.  The Highliner visits each one in turn and drops off the required Pop to get the colonies producing - then heads back to base.
 
If you're doing a "hostile environment" colony, however (rock to gas or ice, etc), you're stuck with massive Highliner colony components.  This makes cross-planet type colonization much harder than in the basic game (as it probably should be).  
 
So, whadyallthink?
 
CURRENT STATUS...
 
Data files - 70% completed (colony/fighter cargo mess resolved - components and facilities still in work, most other basic data files already completed or left unchanged)
 
AI/race files - 10% (some changes made in generic AI files, others will follow once data changes complete)
 
Image files - 100% (intro screens and substitute highliner/worldship pics complete)  
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
			
			
			
			
				 
			
			
			
			
            
			
			
				
			
			
			
		 
		
	
	
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