Other X's

[Gryphin]

Don't forget
eXwife
eXlife

There is another game recently released that is not aa deep but qualifies to be listed and that is
Empire Deluxe Internet Edition.
Here is my rating:
http://www.windingstream.com/ed/empiredeluxe.htm
I was playing "one more turn" in its predecessor when I burned my then fiancé’s and now eXwife's pea soup.
Despite it’s lack of complexity it still has the addiXtive draw to it.
This is especially true since PBW is very easy and you can save any time you want to.

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Karibu:
MOO3 was a failure, I admit. I have to grant them my appreciation of the ambition, though they made too many compromises in it. It truly is quite different of any other strategy game ever. The biggest ambition is their biggest failure. They tried to let AI governors handle the planetary level, though it does not do it well enough. Had it been made right, MOO3 would have achieved very different opinions from the players.

However, I wait until the patch is released (not beta) and then I will try it and see does it work any better.

What ultimately made me hate the game was the sincere lack of intelligent lay out it had. I have seen TAX forms that are more intuative than that games UI and systems.

The one thing I really did like was the Galaxy map. That was truly one cool thing.

The rest of the game was just pathetic in respect to what should have been a simple to learn, in depth game with long term game appeal. I hold no hope for the up coming patch. None what so ever.

[Erax]

Would you consider EFS a 4X game ? How about SMAC ?

[Loser]

Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
Would you consider EFS a 4X game ?

Who?

Originally posted by Chief Engineer Erax:
How about SMAC ?

Yes, definately, and Civ before and after it as well.

code:

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4X != Space Opera

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Or perhaps

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4x > Space Opera

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[Erax]

EFS = Emperor of the Fading Suns. Multi-planet ground combat with a minor space element, set in a 'Dune-like' universe. Great game, moddable too.

[Fyron]

Actually, it is:
eXplore
eXpand
eXploit
eXterminate

The order actually matters.

[Saarud]

EFS is a superbly designed game and could be the best if it weren't for all the bugs. The game is almost unplayable in single player unless you have lots of houserules to follow. Even then the AI is totally crappy. MP is where EFS shines and even then many houserules are needed not to use blatant bugs.

My two wetest dreams when it comes to followup computergames is EFS 2 and Master of Magic 2.