A thought on the Talisman / Live on Pay-Per-View: Geo vs. Fyron

Soulfisher · #1 July 16th, 2003, 09:32 AM

But diplomacy (for the purpose of creating allies for you, the religious-tech player) will only work if you can find another player who is willing to ally with you -and- win the game with you as their ally (in other words, they are willing to share the victory with you). If all the players in the game want to be the sole victor, they may gang up on you to destroy you, then fight each other. Or they may ally with you against others, but then prove themselves backstabbers and attack you once your allied victory is assured.

Fyron · #2 July 16th, 2003, 09:42 AM

In that case you might be screwed. But, I never said that you are guaranteed to be able to make allies.

Just so you know, Geo and I took the discussion to MSN a while ago (and he had to leave before we could finish it)...

Taera · #3 July 16th, 2003, 11:00 AM

so the only real way of effectively exterminating the talisman player is ganging up on him? doesnt sound too good to me.

geoschmo · #4 July 17th, 2003, 01:15 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Just so you know, Geo and I took the discussion to MSN a while ago (and he had to leave before we could finish it)...

But basically he had come to the realisation his original statement was an exageration, he is just too proud to admit it publicly.

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Originally posted by Taera:
so the only real way of effectively exterminating the talisman player is ganging up on him? doesnt sound too good to me.

No, it's not the only way, but it is the most effective. The Talisman is powerful, probably too much so. A single player can beat him but it takes healthy helpings of skill and aggressivness, and a little luck too.

There is no simple counter for it like there is for so many other things in the game. It takes a complete all around effort.

Geoschmo

Baron Munchausen · #5 July 16th, 2003, 04:27 PM

We've suggested several fixes for the Talisman in the Beta forum. MM is busy with Starfury right now, and might just go on to SE V when he's done with it. But if he's willing to make one more patch for SE IV we could still get him to make it only work with certain weapons or only at intervals (every X turns instead of every turn) so as to limit its power.

geoschmo · #6 July 16th, 2003, 05:26 PM

What about making the tailsman only work for one weapon each combat turn?

tesco samoa · #7 July 16th, 2003, 06:21 PM

baron if that is a hard code it is a horrible idea....

why not just leave it to the modders...