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July 12th, 2003, 07:08 AM
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Re: Philosophical Quandry: Piracy
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The original question was very clearly only to provoke comments, and so my absolute ruling on it is utterly unimportant, as I have now commented.
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What other possible purpose could a question have than to provoke comments? A question is asked to get comments on the matter! 
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July 12th, 2003, 08:45 AM
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Re: Philosophical Quandry: Piracy
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quote: The original question was very clearly only to provoke comments, and so my absolute ruling on it is utterly unimportant, as I have now commented.
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What other possible purpose could a question have than to provoke comments? A question is asked to get comments on the matter! Get an answer; get a solution to a problem; teach someone else something; insult someone via sarcasm or irony; convince someone to take a particular course of action; debate tactic: a method of challenging a debate opponent on a potential flaw in their position ... there are a lot of reasons.
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July 12th, 2003, 09:02 AM
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Re: Philosophical Quandry: Piracy
Note how every single one of those possibilities are comments on the question? They are comments that serve different purposes, but all comments nonetheless. Just pointing out that you made a vacuous statement. 
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July 12th, 2003, 09:28 AM
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Note how every single one of those possibilities are comments on the question? They are comments that serve different purposes, but all comments nonetheless.
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Granted I'm commenting on the question when listing those possibilities; however, not all of the possible reasons listed for the original question require a responding comment to achieve the desired effect. Specifically, I listed three that don't:
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A person being taught does not necessitate that person taught comment on the question. The purpose of the question is to teach in such cases; comments are only desireable as a method of confirming the learning. They are not directly relevant to the question, and are not truely part of the purpose for the question.
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Again, no comment is necessary (on the part of the target or anyone else, for that matter) for the insult to occur (although it may require some words preceeding the question, we are specifically discussing responses to the question here, so that is immaterial).
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If I ask you why you don't try something, then you try it, I have successfully convinced you to take a particular course of action, regardless of wether or not you comment on the question. For such cases, comments are irrelevant; it is the action that matters.
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Just pointing out that you made a vacuous statement.
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Why the insult?
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July 12th, 2003, 09:37 AM
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Insult? I see no insult. I merely labeled the sentence as what it is. Insulting would be if I called you vacuous, which I did not do. I guess if you want to take it personally it could be seen as an insult, but that is not how it was intended.
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July 12th, 2003, 09:47 AM
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Insult? I see no insult.
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Then you aren't too terribly perceptive.
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I merely labeled the sentence as what it is.
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So are you maintaining that all listed possibilites have comments as their goal, without addressing my expansion of what I meant? That's odd.
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Insulting would be if I called you vacuous, which I did not do.
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Not directly - but in calling a statement someone makes vacuous, you are saying that that person makes vacuous statements, which in turn implies that they are vacuous people.
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I guess if you want to take it personally it could be seen as an insult, but that is not how it was intended.
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You are saying it wasn't intended that way, but you aren't apoligizing either. Odd.
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July 12th, 2003, 09:56 AM
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Re: Philosophical Quandry: Piracy
So back to the regularly scheduled philosophizing...
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