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				 OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 Just what do you think about sour society after reading this ? http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0...376169,00.html
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 A pathetic, transparent spoof.  That media outlets are too stupid to notice as false.        
*Sigh*
 
OK, that was a little heavy handed.
 
Might I suggest  you read these web sites.
www.snopes.com   This one is all good, but their bulletin board has some specific info here:  Click This: 
www.skepdic.com 
They will give you some ammunition vs. hoaxes.  I try to apply critical techniques to every bit of info that comes my way -- good brain exercise.
 
OK, so I'm not perfect at that.  A recent page hacking post of mine proves that.  But I do try.
 
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				July 17th, 2003, 08:03 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 I saw that story on National TV News this AM.  The same guy is apparently selling videos of the whole affair!!! 
EDIT:  Sure didn't look like a hoax to me - they were interviewing the guy and showing video footage with strategic elements 'blurred out'      [ July 17, 2003, 19:04: Message edited by: rdouglass ] |  
	
		
	
	
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 Well, first of all, I'm a believer in adults being able to make their own decisions and do what they like.  As a comedian once said, "If I enjoy soaking my *** in a salt solution and sit around on my knees in the forest pertending to be a deer lick, why should people care?"
 I also believe in legalized prostitution, another subject that gets people upset.
 
 But back to the subject.  I don't believe it's an urban legend.  I believe the post below mine, that it's a gimmick to help sell another kind of video that's trying to follow the success of "Women Gone Wild".
 
 But people can get upset at the drop of a hat these days.  Do you remember all the hate mail a guy got a few years ago for putting up a hoax site called, "Bonsai Kittens"?  Made the newspaper and everything.  Investigations and all.  Turns out, he was just manipulating and distorting cat faces and bodies in Photoshop.  LOL.
 
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				July 17th, 2003, 08:29 PM
			
			
			
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 the same as i did before.... 
many many societies... and this is just one of them    
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 
	This one is my current favorite.  {Link-a-chow}  Read this snopes debunker first.  Then go to the spoof site.  I think the kids look soooo cute.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Loser: You think that's a hoax, you should read about this man Skaggs.
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 so, what someone else does is not your business? well, you can, say, try to jump of a bridge all you want, but if i'm there i'm going to try to save you.
 take the statement to it's logical conclusion - if what someone else does is not my business, them what that means is that i shouldn't care, at all, about anybody. yes, i know it's a far cry from people's right to a decision, but it's a distinction that needs to be made, firmly.
 
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 I strongly suspect the article is a hoax on three counts:
 1) The money is reported in £ while the location is listed as "just outside Las Vegas" - which is in the USA; they would be dealing with $.
 
 2) It doesn't make economic sense; Cost: £3000 from the hunter; rewards: £1600 per girl that escapes, £700 per girl that doesn't; 3 girls.  If all are caught, you get £700 + £700 + £700 = £2100: a £900 profit for the owner.  If just one escapes, you have £700 + £700 + £1600 = £3000: the exact price the hunter is being charged; the owner breaks even (this doesn't include such expenses as ammo).  If two escape, you have £700 + £1600 + £1600 = £3900: a £900 loss on the part of the hunting grounds.  If all three escape, you have £1600 + £1600 + £1600 = £4800: an £1800 loss on the part of the hunting grounds.  This is too bad of a buisness model to be real.
 
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	(emphasis added) - the Daily Star is a supermarket tabloid where I live; you can also see headlines of three legged people, space aliens, and celebrity infidelity.Quote: 
	
		| The game's inventor, Michael Burdick, defended its safety risks and said contestants were told not to shoot above the chest. 
 "I don't go deer hunting and see a deer with a football helmet on, so I don't want to see one on my girl, either," he told the Daily Star.
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				 Re: OT: Freedom of expression or the dawn of morality ? 
 "the Daily Star is a supermarket tabloid where I live; you can also see headlines of three legged people, space aliens, and celebrity infidelity. "
 YOU MEAN I CAN HUNT NAKED THREE LEGGED INFIDEL ALIENS?! IM IN!
 
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