PBW Down? - Back up!

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Gyphon:
Okay, getting back on topic here.

I would like to send a message out to all those who have been holding up games all this time in hopes that PBW will be up soon. Guess what? It's not gonna happen that quickly. If they've been down this long they are likely to be down alot longer. .

It's hard for me to argue this point effectively. I have to say that Tuesday will tell the tale. According to the DSL people they have checked everything everywhere. If the meeting between the DSL tech and phone company tech on Tuesday does not bear fruit I have no idea what the next step in the process will be.

Originally posted by Gyphon:

The game admins can run the turns for everyone. What's the big deal? Are your fingers so lethargic that you cannot go through the extra effort of sending an email? This is a friendly plea to STOP HOLDING UP THE GAMES!

Geez, we all did fine without PBW before they existed and I can't believe that we can't play a game without them now that they have a long standing problem..

If there is anyone out there that wishes to play there game PBEM and the owner is not willing to do so, let me know. I will offer to take the game over and run the turns myself. Either myself or someone else. If we have a group of players wanting to go and the only thinkg holding them up is a game owner, we can find a new game owner.

Originally posted by Gyphon:

BTW, has it occured to anyone that they may be re-developing the entire system? They have had these issues a few times before.

Actually this is the first extended DSL outage we have had. We've never been down longer then a day before for connection problems. The previous extended outages in PBW were due to hardware failures on our end.

I am not really sure what you are trying to say here. We area always looking at our options for teh future of PBW but we are not currently actively redeveloping it. It seems like you are suggesting that the DSL is not really down but we are pretending it is so we can do a redesign of the PBW server? If we ever redevelop PBW it will be done while PBW is up and running and we will switch to the new system once it's been tested and stuff. There is no reason to take the system down for weeks to do that, and certainly no reason for us to be less then honest about what we are doing.

It's unlikely that this thought would occur to anyone, as they would expect based on past experience we would be up front with them about what is going on.

Geoschmo

[Fyron]

If there is anyone out there that wishes to play there game PBEM and the owner is not willing to do so, let me know. I will offer to take the game over and run the turns myself. Either myself or someone else. If we have a group of players wanting to go and the only thinkg holding them up is a game owner, we can find a new game owner.

I certainly hope you wouldn't hijack someone's game without their permission...

Originally posted by Gyphon:
Well then to them I am saying that it IS possible to play without PBW. My point stands. But thanks for the info.

Has it occured to you that maybe a lot of people that are hosting games on PBW do it only because hosting it on PBW takes very little time, whereas doing it via PBEM takes a lot more time? Not everyone has time or desire to go through the hassle of processing turns manually every time.

[ August 17, 2003, 21:08: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[Fyron]

There was only one extended down time of PBW (prior to this mess), and that was from hardware failure. The other downtimes were short ones, hardly anything to be complaining about for a free service.

[Tigbit]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
It's hard for me to argue this point effectively. I have to say that Tuesday will tell the tale. According to the DSL people they have checked everything everywhere. If the meeting between the DSL tech and phone company tech on Tuesday does not bear fruit I have no idea what the next step in the process will be.

That's okay, because I am not looking for an argument. I want those who are holding up games to play, because it's hardly fair that we have to wait for months because they don't want to expend the small extra effort to email their turns to the admin.

If there is anyone out there that wishes to play there game PBEM and the owner is not willing to do so, let me know. I will offer to take the game over and run the turns myself. Either myself or someone else. If we have a group of players wanting to go and the only thinkg holding them up is a game owner, we can find a new game owner.

The admins are not the only problem, and I am specifically addressing the players unwilling to send their turns.

I am not really sure what you are trying to say here.

My only purpose is to get the games played. Even if your issues (whatever they are) never get resolved there is life after PBW.

How many games were being run on your PBW system before it went down. Now think about how lazy most people are (sorry, can't think of a nice way to put it so I am being blunt so as not to be misunderstood). There are approximately how many games on hold simply because of a few lazy people.

Again, I am not looking to flame or to receive flame. Let's just get these games going. Once PBW is up and going again you can go back to your lethargic ways, I really don't care after that.

[Tigbit]

[quote]Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

Has it occured to you that maybe a lot of people that are hosting games on PBW do it only because hosting it on PBW takes very little time, whereas doing it via PBEM takes a lot more time? Not everyone has time or desire to go through the hassle of processing turns manually every time.

Actually no, because I am addressing the PLAYERS that refuse to send their turns into an admin who IS willing to go through the trouble. I did indicate this in my original post, Fyron.

[Tigbit]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
There was only one extended down time of PBW (prior to this mess), and that was from hardware failure. The other downtimes were short ones, hardly anything to be complaining about for a free service.

Cut it out Fyron, I am not looking for an argument or a guilt-trip. I want the players in my game to play the game or get out.

BTW, there was one extended down time that you remember.

[ August 17, 2003, 22:57: Message edited by: Gyphon ]

[Fyron]

Your Posts seemed to be talking about hosts not willing to process turns manually, not players not sending in plr files to hosts willing to do so.

Cut it out Fyron, I am not looking for an argument or a guilt-trip.

Cut what out? Attempting to put your complaints into perspective?

I want the players in my game to play the game or get out.

Then you should have been more explicit in your Posts, as that is not what it looked like you were saying to me.

BTW, there was one extended down time that you remember.

No, there was one extended down time. It Lasted for a few months, and was due to hardware failure. I am not sure what you consider to be an extended down time... perhaps we should clarify that.

[ August 17, 2003, 23:11: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]