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July 28th, 2003, 12:15 PM
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Re: Attack of the Ankle-Biters - Replacment player needed.
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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
That is all fine. It still does not have anything to do with telekinesis, which is a projection of force powered by mental (psionic) energy from the being doing the telekinesis.
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So ... you have proof of this "fact", perhaps ... ? You can describe to us the precise energy type, the mechanics of the resultant wave form, it's mechanism of generation, and the physics and mechanics of it's propagation through matter, EM fields, and/or vacuum? Maybe even shed some light on the biological and/or technological structures neccessary to generate such effects and waveforms, complete with working schematics?
If so, then please, do tell ...
Prove to us that quantum tunelling is not as equally valid for energy as it is for matter. Then prove that the energy wave-form(s) associated with the use of telekinetic or psychokinetic events does not, and can not, utilise quantum tunnelling, or any similar phenomenon.
Of course, you can't. I've refuted your claim that only magic can allow such a thing to happen, with real-world current-technology examples of actual, hard science.
You are relying solely on newtonian physics for your argument; I am delving into the possibilities inherent in quantum physics for mine. Therein lies the downfall of your argument: quantum physics always trumps newtonian physics. The only factor they have in common would be, AFAIK, the First Law of Thermodynamics.
It is IMO entirely feasible, and scientifically possible, that the TKProjector randomly re-balances kinetic energy in the target -- taking some FROM one place, and adding it TO another place -- and that several aspects of quantum mechanics governs the means and methods by which this is acomplished.
I have therefor posited that such is the mechanism by which telekinesis works, ergo, shields are about as useful against a powerful (or in this case, artificial and/or artificially amplified) telekinetic as a papier-mache hull would be against a Shard Cannon X. Which is to say, not at all.
So, I say again -- if you dislike it this much, why not simply not play this particular mod ... ?
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Originally posted by Phoenix-D:
Explain why the shields could block mental force, then. (hell, explain why they could block -any- force, aside from maybe electromagnetic)
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Actually, and I'm working form half-remembered stuff here, but I remember one of the Voyager satellites had to have several course corrections after bouncing off of Jupiter's EM field. Sunward, the planets' EM fields are compressed by the constant pressure of the solar wind; my understanding is, this creates areas of exceptionally strong EM flux, in layers of "shells", around the planets.
In the case of a giant like Jupiter, these can have a very real effect on even relatively-massive physical objects. At least twice, perhaps more often, that Voyager satellite I mentioned had it's course deflected away from Jupiter, neccessitating several repeated tries to cross that point in Jupiter's EM field before the flyby could be managed.
So in the least, it's possible for an EM-based field to deflect energy and/or physical objects ... if the field is strong enough, and it's density is somehow compressed sufficiently.
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Originally posted by Jack Simth:
From the context, it would appear that Pax is suggesting that in his view of how the currently commonly considered imaginary field of telekenesis, the energy generated by the psis' is transmitted through a mechanism that skips distances and interviening matter/energy/whatever in a similar manner to quantum tunneling or the unknown mechanism of quantum pairings; thus skipping shields.
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Exactly, unequivocably, and precisely correct.
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