Does Life Exist

JurijD · #1 August 10th, 2003, 12:03 PM

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Originally posted by oleg:
Earlier this year there was a paper published in Nature that proved (apparently) there was no crossbreeding between neanthertals and modern man. We simply wiped them out.

Interesting. Thanks for the input. I guess crossbreading really was an imposibility and not only very unlikely.

oleg · #2 August 10th, 2003, 06:44 PM

There are several recent and more or less rigourous scientific papers that assert we mayin fact be one of the First Ones - stars evolution indicates stars older then our Sun are too poor in heavy elements. At the same time, younger stars give up to 20% chance of planets observable by modern - and VERY rudimentary technics ! Basically, we still have some time handicape to evolve and go to the stars. If we fail, in a millenium or two, aliens will come and resolve our pitty squables

parabolize · #3 August 11th, 2003, 03:21 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:
I would like to point out a few things.
First God is a God of law He obeys the RULES just like the rest of us.
Case in point: The parting of the red sea by Moses. If you carefully read in the Bible how that was done you will see that that miriacal(sic)was accomplished by natural means.

Second Blaming God for the terrible acts done in His name by PEOPLE is an error in doctrine. It comes right out in the Bible and says why we are here which is to choose between good and evil.

Third How we got here via evloution or 'Poof' is not the most important issue.What is of importance is have we chose good over evil and have we obeyed God?

And Forth The more knowledge we gain points out how little we know about everything. Theories are constantly changing as we gather new information about the universe around us. I just finished reading article that pointed out that we are not descended from apes but from a similar species.

Also in this thread I noticed people making statements about other star systems as if they were facts when really we don't know for sure. We need to allways be aware that there is more to learn.
Even in a construct such as SEIV there is more to learn every time I play.

I am here. I am aware. There has to be others like me beyond the confines of this solar system.

wait wait a person of faith telling people theyre jumping to ideas to fast... There has been a great amount deduced by comparing stars to known nuclear reactions, giving us a good idea of what is out there.

Gozra · #4 August 12th, 2003, 12:08 AM

"wait wait a person of faith telling people theyre jumping to ideas to fast... There has been a great amount deduced by comparing stars to known nuclear reactions, giving us a good idea of what is out there."

Exactly what are you attempting to say here?

There is life on other worlds other than our own. And the possiblity does exist that we are here for spiritual reasons. At any rate NASA has a money budgeted and a launch date for 2012 to send a satillite out specifically to look for planets like ours. I am looking forward to the results.

[ August 11, 2003, 23:08: Message edited by: Gozra ]

oleg · #5 August 12th, 2003, 12:40 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:
...At any rate NASA has a money budgeted and a launch date for 2012 to send a satillite out specifically to look for planets like ours. I am looking forward to the results.

Are you sure it will come so soon ? Last time I logged into NASA site it was 2025. And it can not be one satellite, we must have at least two to make the interferometer images of close stars. I think - not sure anymore.

oleg · #6 August 12th, 2003, 12:41 AM

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Originally posted by Gozra:
...At any rate NASA has a money budgeted and a launch date for 2012 to send a satillite out specifically to look for planets like ours. I am looking forward to the results.

Are you sure it will come so soon ? Last time I logged into NASA site it was 2025. And it can not be one satellite, we must have at least two to make the interferometer images of close stars. I think - not sure anymore.

geoschmo · #7 August 12th, 2003, 03:40 PM

It has occured to me my previous remarks about the unlikelyhood of us ever getting out of our own system were a bit pessimistic. If one considers the potential of nano-technology it may be possible someday. If you can conceive of a ship that is maintained and repaired by billions of microscopic nano-bots scouring the ship and making repairs at the molecular level, it's conceivable that we could build a ship that could travel for hundreds, even thousands of years and arrive at it's destination in the same pristine condition that it left Earth.