Belly sin...

Fyron · #1 September 13th, 2003, 01:43 AM

Why did you quote a post that has nothing to do with this discussion? Context, my friend, context!

narf poit chez BOOM · #2 September 13th, 2003, 01:49 AM

read that report just now. if disney knew that people where engaged in 'simulated sexual acts' - more or less verbatim qoute - i don't see how they can justify it.

context? this thread has context?

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Mathias_Ice · #3 September 13th, 2003, 01:59 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
Why did you quote a post that has nothing to do with this discussion? Context, my friend, context!

Um, seemed to me both Posts (IF's and Woundwort's) were saying the Christian has no right to judge. Seemed very similar context to me.

Fyron · #4 September 13th, 2003, 03:02 AM

My statement had nothing to do with rights to judge... it was mostly about the hypocrisy of the many Christians that preach tolerance but aren't really very tolerant themselves (which was quite appropriate in the context of the thread it was made in).

Mathias_Ice · #5 September 13th, 2003, 04:28 AM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
My statement had nothing to do with rights to judge... it was mostly about the hypocrisy of the many Christians that preach tolerance but aren't really very tolerant themselves (which was quite appropriate in the context of the thread it was made in).

Maybe this belongs back in the other thread but here we are with it so I will continue (especially as I have already quoted the post in question.)

To be tolerant of an individual is a good thing, it is very Christian to "love thine enemy." To be intolerant of sin is also a good thing. Back to "Hate what is evil."

Maybe you can explain to me where the hypocrisy is. The referenced article was not condemning any particular person, it was speaking out against a sin (homosexuality) and the perceived promotion of that sin by a corporation (Disney.) And I was merely referencing the article to pine of a seemingly more innocent time. I fail to see any hypocrisy, of course this plank may be in my way!

Loser · #6 September 13th, 2003, 04:41 AM

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Originally posted by Mathias_Ice:
"Hate what is evil."

Quick question: where do you get that you should hate at all?

Hate is like an acid, it damages not only the object it is applied to, but also the vessel in which it is kept.

Anger, anger I can understand. That is usefull. But hate takes so long, changes so many things. Why?

General Woundwort · #7 September 13th, 2003, 04:54 AM

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Originally posted by Mathias_Ice:
Um, seemed to me both Posts (IF's and Woundwort's) were saying the Christian has no right to judge. Seemed very similar context to me.

Not quite. Everyone has moral criteria by which they judge things (movies, in this case). But it's not so black-and-white where you can say "This movie contains depictions of 'x', therefore this movie is to be avoided." This sort of self-defeating criteria (at least from a Christian perspective - see my original post) is what I'm arguing against. There is a difference, for example, between the violence in Band of Brothers and the violence in Freddy vs. Jason. The one realistically portrays the violence of war as part of portraying the men of E Company and the war's effect on them. The other - well, if it had any real point other than tittilating horror freaks and making money, somebody wiser than me will have to explain it to me.

But I hope the kinds of distinctions I'm making are clear. And I wholeheartedly agree with the numerous people on this thread who have argued for parental responsibility in dealing with films and TV. Labels are no substitute for parental guidance and discussion.