Starting tactics

[spoon]

Originally posted by DavidG:

quote:

---

Originally posted by primitive:

My result (tested it thrice on different maps): ---- Out of minerals at turn 8 -----

It's funny how often this crucial little problem gets overlooked in all the theoretical models.

---

Running out of minerals is a testament to how well it works

[Atrocities]

You guys who crunch the numbers make my brain hurt!

[Fyron]

Originally posted by DavidG:

quote:

---

Originally posted by primitive:

My result (tested it thrice on different maps): ---- Out of minerals at turn 8 -----

It's funny how often this crucial little problem gets overlooked in all the theoretical models.

---

I don't think anyone posted theoretical models here, but practical models that had been tested in-game before. Of course, not all of the factors have been mentioned.

[ December 02, 2003, 02:32: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]

[primitive]

Originally posted by spoon:
I usually play on Good start, so I think that might make the difference - usually gives me enough time to stabalize and establish other mining colonies.

Looks like we have been comparing apples with oranges here

[Parasite]

I have used a MMSY strategy (Modified Moon). It seemed to work well. I took over a game and was interduced to the BSY-S. I tried it and found it did have several weaknesses. (one was the lack of metals) Also building BSY happened in the same hex. Later you can build 10 colony ships in one turn , but they are built on the home world . It means they must go farther and farther to get to a planet. To be fair you should also count this maintanance as well.

I did like the BSY idea though and am testing a min/maxed empire E-building a BSY in one turn. Have the HW build two, then a colony ship, then go off EBuild. The BS then Ebuild 3 colony ships turns 4,7,11 and 5,8,12. When they are done and slowly building the next colony ship, first planets can be coming on line to continue more along the lines of the MMBY-S. This gets me 2 colony ships on turn 4 (and an extra base) while before I had one ship t2 and one t4. The next turn would bypass the Old way and the homeworld would be starting to recover to get ready for the first war.

What do you think?

[ December 02, 2003, 16:14: Message edited by: Parasite ]

[Suicide Junkie]

The way I usually play it is to build one BSY then go with colony ships and scouts as needed to find nice planets.
The BSY E-builds 4 friends, and they all start making whatever is needed.

Its good enough for me, and provides a solid industrial base immediately. Any planet with a spaceyard will get 3 BSYs to help out eventually.

[Fyron]

You only hit a lack of minerals if you overextend yourself on the BSYs, do not take a good minerals bonus at racial setup, and find no place for even a few mineral miners on colonies. The third condition is extremeley rare.