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[Cyrien]

What is this I keep hearing about the US only having the two atomic bombs? Even while the US was bombing it was producing more atomic cores for a sustained atomic bombing effort if Japan failed to surrender. The next one was scheduled to be shipped from Los Alamos and arrive for use against Japan on August 17 or 18. There was a whole list of potential targets. The leaflets were deployed after the first atomic bomb was dropped warning other Japanese cities to evacuate. The leaflets scheduled for Nagasaki didn't get their until August 10 which would have been before the original schedule for bombing but the schedule was moved up due to bad weather forcasts, and of course Nagasaki was the backup target. The primary target had been the Kokura Arsenal however weather prevented the bombing of that target and Nagasaki was the only backup target which weather permitted the bombing of.

I won't go into the morality of the use of atomic bombs on Japan. Or the morale justification for the Japanese release of the first modern bio weapons over China etc... etc...

A timeline:http://vikingphoenix.com/public/Japa...5/abombchr.htm

Japanese Bio Weapons:
http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/japan/bw/

[narf poit chez BOOM]

Narf, you are a walking, breathing red herring. You make things interesting. Thank you.

um...thanks????

from one of those sources, it seems like they didn't make any great effort with the leaflets. both that and the short interval's between the bombs lends credence to the theory that the bombs were dropped to kill and terrify. ok, now can anyone point to any official corrospondence that indicates that Japan was ready to surrender? any that indicates that the Japanese emporer was involved in the war crimes? or that the refusal to surrender was hinged on wether or not he'd be charged? and even if so, would that be enough reason to extend the war to get him?

i'm not trying to make a point with the questions, just asking.

[ December 11, 2003, 21:09: Message edited by: narf poit chez BOOM ]

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Cyrien:
What is this I keep hearing about the US only having the two atomic bombs? Even while the US was bombing it was producing more atomic cores for a sustained atomic bombing effort if Japan failed to surrender. The next one was scheduled to be shipped from Los Alamos and arrive for use against Japan on August 17 or 18

I had always told that the US had no more and wasn't likely to have any more for months at best. Don't have anything to support it really, just thought it was common knowledge and accepted it as fact.

Geoschmo

[Geckomlis]

Narf,

Try:

Behind Japan's surrender; the secret struggle that ended an empire
by Lester Brooks

Gecko

[Fyron]

Originally posted by rextorres:
Atrocities - dropping the a-bomb wasn't meant to save civilian lives - I guess it's hard for flag wavers to admit that the U.S. was already killing hundred of thousands of civilian lives - not admitting THIS is revisionist.

Could you please drop the inflammatory tone? Statements like this are only meant to provoke people.

[Cyrien]

Narf and others can try

http://www.nuclearfiles.org/hiatomicbomb/manhattan.html

for lots of information and actual documents from the time. Haven't looked through most of it so can't say if it has what you want. But it has alot related to the atomic bombs and the decision to use them.

[oleg]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by rextorres:
Atrocities - dropping the a-bomb wasn't meant to save civilian lives - I guess it's hard for flag wavers to admit that the U.S. was already killing hundred of thousands of civilian lives - not admitting THIS is revisionist.

Could you please drop the inflammatory tone? Statements like this are only meant to provoke people.

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Direct that to Atrocities. We have been trying to tell him the truth, but being totaly brain-washed by official US propaganda he started it all by an uncivilized (by the standards of this board ) smirking on the people with different opinions.