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narf poit chez BOOM · #1 December 14th, 2003, 12:37 AM

Hat, your saying that the US has the right to act as brutal or more brutal than there opponents and that afterword they'll be better off having been defeated by the US. there might be a few things wrong with this viewpoint.

AssHat · #2 December 14th, 2003, 12:55 AM

My main point is that the decision was made with the proper historical context: Japanese war of aggression against the west, no surrender, no mercy. We responded in kind assuming they would not surrender to McArthur without having devastation wrought upon them. That is what happened.

As for the revenge factor, I just wanted to make it clear the Japanese got what they deserved.

The U.S. was NOT as brutal as the Japanese or the Germans (Nanking, Bataan, Malmedy, Auschwitz and lots more). The rebuilt Japanese and German societies are more wealthy and free than the majority of countries today, and they are two of our staunch allies. So what was wrong with that viewpoint?

[ December 13, 2003, 23:02: Message edited by: AssHat ]

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 December 14th, 2003, 12:57 AM

indeed? including two-month old children?

AssHat · #4 December 14th, 2003, 01:05 AM

Please. That's lame.

At least any two-month old children killed by U.S. action were collateral damage, and not killed at the tip of laughing soldiers' bayonets (Nanking) or cruelly separated from their family and gassed (Auschwitz). From now on you need to provide specifics, not platitudes.

TerranC · #5 December 14th, 2003, 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by President Elect Shang:
First off as to the bombings, I feel that there had to be an alternate way to overcome the Japanese and bring peace, for peat�s-sake it�s an island, blockade it.

Japan wasn't limited to the japanese islands back then; Korea was Japanese territory in that era; giving the Japanese a foothold in Asia.

Therefore, A blockade would've only delayed the inevitable.

Edit: And manchuria. Forgot Manchukuo.

[ December 13, 2003, 23:10: Message edited by: TerranC ]

Gryphin · #6 December 14th, 2003, 01:22 AM

AssHat,
Reffering to "Thats Lame".
Everyone one here has their own style. There is no need to denigrade a persons contribution. One could say that my refusal to take a stand is cowardice. It would be a waste of time but they could say it.

narf poit chez BOOM · #7 December 14th, 2003, 01:41 AM

other peoples brutality's do not excuse retalitory brutalities. and more reason is needed out of you than simply dissmissing apposing points.