OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested

Loser · #1 December 14th, 2003, 05:49 PM

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Originally posted by primitive:
You don't have me down as a Saddam lover, do you ?

Not at all. I can't think of anyone I know, RL or Online, I would put on that list.

It's your... how to put it... pronounced and well expressed disapproval of the recent course of actions taken but U.S. leadership that would bring something more to this thread. Not that I disapprove of pat-on-the-back content, but variety of opinion and contribution is what these threads great.

Also not that post so far have been strictly congratulatory or jingoistic (hates the word, so overused, like France-bashing, used to be cool but now everyone's doing it

), but I figured you'd have something to contribute that might not otherwise be noted.

And although I disagree with your belief that this event will bring more focus on the ... perhaps lies, perhaps misunderstandings (never assume malice where ignorance or incompetence are fine explanations (though I lean more toward the 'lie' side every month) that were used to justify the matter in the first place, it is a real possibility that I had not yet considered.

[edit: thems some bad sentances. broke a few rules there, I think)

[ December 14, 2003, 15:51: Message edited by: Loser ]

Cipher7071 · #2 December 14th, 2003, 06:03 PM

It seems there are a number of Iraqis who want to try Saddam in Iraq. Some of the of pundits say Iraq, some say in international court, some say both. In any case, trying him in the U.S. would be a big mistake all around.

Slynky · #3 December 14th, 2003, 06:09 PM

Well, one thing is for sure (I think):

The Bush administration is enjoying the lack of attention there has been on the push for proof of WMD. I still mention it to my wife (a devout Bush supporter), though. I still remember all the aerial photographs before the "action" started with arrows pointing to places that housed the WMD. And when they got there, nothing. And nothing since. And the chief inspector in the country, from Germany, saying they had never found anything.

I think the US wanted to flex its muscle (given certain events) and I don't disagree that Iraq was a country gone awry (sp?). But, even in the US, it's illegal for a guy to go beat up another guy even if he is sure this guy will do some bad some day.

Slynky · #4 December 14th, 2003, 06:10 PM

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Originally posted by Cipher7071:
In any case, trying him in the U.S. would be a big mistake all around.

Not that the world is waiting on what I have to say, but I agree.

Cyrien · #5 December 14th, 2003, 06:14 PM

My prediction is that the people of Iraq will get him. Several members of their provisional government have stated they want him. People are chanting for him in the streets, Tony Blair has stated that is what he would prefer. Several other Arab nations have stated that with the addition that the subsequent execution should be public. And the US is undecided on where he should be put on trial and only know that he should.

Cyrien · #6 December 14th, 2003, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Slynky:
Well, one thing is for sure (I think):

The Bush administration is enjoying the lack of attention there has been on the push for proof of WMD. I still mention it to my wife (a devout Bush supporter), though. I still remember all the aerial photographs before the "action" started with arrows pointing to places that housed the WMD. And when they got there, nothing. And nothing since. And the chief inspector in the country, from Germany, saying they had never found anything.

I think the US wanted to flex its muscle (given certain events) and I don't disagree that Iraq was a country gone awry (sp?). But, even in the US, it's illegal for a guy to go beat up another guy even if he is sure this guy will do some bad some day.

But is it illegal to go and remove from a position to do so someone who has exibited repeatedly in the past the desire, and ability to do some bad to all his neighbors. Just putting the analogy in a more proper context.

Slynky · #7 December 14th, 2003, 06:30 PM

Well, to put the analagy in proper context, I offer this:

A guy can say in front of witnesses that he is going to kill his wife. She can even complain to the police. But they can't arrest him, even though he certainly has the ability to beat her to death. An action has to be done before arrests can be made.