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December 18th, 2003, 03:45 AM
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Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested
While it is true that in stricter times one could be subjected to legal penalties for sex outside of marriage, the acronym explanation of the word is not valid. The euphemism 'carnal knowledge' does even not exist in English until the Bible becomes commonly available in English in the 16th century because it was the translation of a Hebrew verb that meant 'to know' and also had the connotation of sexual intercourse that created that new connotation in English. William Tyndale was burned as a heretic for translating the Bible into English, btw. And then a few years later King James comissions an 'official' translation and his 'team of scholars' rips off reams of Tyndale's work... go figure.
Anyway, the word is considered a cognate of a German word 'ficken' and to have been influenced by a Latin word 'futuere'. Both of these words mean essentially the same thing -- 'to strike' -- which makes perfect sense for the action described. I think 'ficken' is actually used in German just as we use 'f-ck' too.
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December 18th, 2003, 10:27 AM
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Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested
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fcuk ... Latin... 'futuere'
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Hence the Italian 'fottere' which is the direct translation of our F word, and the French 'foutre' which as well as the obvious can also mean to do, to get up to, although never in polite company.
EDIT: Apologies to any sensitive francophones/ italians, (UBB filters out any instances of fkcu, but only in English) but by now there's not much shocking point trying to pretend we don't know what the drokk we're frelling talking about.
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December 19th, 2003, 02:45 AM
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Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested
A good rule of thumb for word origin stories is to ignore any that involve an English acronym before 1940. Acronyms were not in common use in the English language until World War II. Before this they were a curiosity of the academics, and not in use by common men.
Of course, I am no lingual historian, this is just what I've been told. And there are exceptions, like 'ok'.
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December 18th, 2003, 04:44 PM
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Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested
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Originally posted by sachmo:
quote: Originally posted by CNCRaymond:
quote: Originally posted by President Elect Shang:
Anyone heard from Roanon?
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Not since his Last comments. Maybe he just don't bloody care anymore?
I have, and I don't blame him if it is true.
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December 18th, 2003, 09:26 PM
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Re: OT: Saddam Hussein Arrested
Well I see this topic is running wild now too!
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