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January 3rd, 2004, 01:35 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
And that, Bug my bug, was the decision the US made over Hiroshima... (maybe not Nagasaki, I'm unsure). They projected casualties from an Operation Olympic, compared to testing out the first "real tough toys for real tough boys".
The Japanese fried and we're still discussing it.
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January 4th, 2004, 02:43 AM
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Re: Are We Evil?
They bombed Nagasaki also. I believe it saved lives compared what attack on Japan islands would have costed. However, I think I would not have bombed cities first, but made a show in some nearby place where their emperor could see the result and told that next one will be dropped in Tokyo. I am not sure if I would have the courage to order such bombing.
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January 3rd, 2004, 03:30 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
I think you may recall, I won't glass a planet. I will only capture them.
I find even though it is no more than a bunch of 1s an zeros I still can't get into it.
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January 3rd, 2004, 03:35 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
I don't want to get into another A-bomb discussion, thank you.
As to the original question, what is evil ? I had a relative died of cancer recently. Does it makes cancer cells evil ? But humans are not mindless cells, you say ! Are you sure ? Even if humans have free will - it will be debated forever - does that makes humanity as whole a conscious force for good ? Or are our moral dilemas no more than Brownian motion of tiny cells in a suicadal cancer devouring the life on the planet ?
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January 3rd, 2004, 03:48 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
ask someone who has done it for real...
...ask the Alien Agent...
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January 3rd, 2004, 03:59 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
I like to avoid genocide, just for economic reasons. I've never played it Gryphin's way, but I may have to try that soon.
In a TDM/FQM game recently I was trying to beat the Rage down enough that they'd surrender. Yeah, the Rage. Surrender. So that didn't happen. But in the process I tried to take their homeworld in Tac combat (High-Med TDM is being difficult, so I'm using Tac)
It had 16 billion on it, and I had two ships of one hundred troops each. Just like expecting the Rage to surrender once I had ten times their score I expected that many troops could take a homeworld. Well, that many troops can't take and FQM homeworld.
The first ship dropped it's troops and they just went away. Dang militia ate them and asked for seconds.
So spent the next twenty-two turns pelting the world with PPB from orbit. This killed about twelve billion Rage, but allowed my troops to take the planet. The Resupply Depot survived the orbital bombardment, so I got just about everything I wanted.
Gryph, would you practice the wholesale slaughter of billions prior to a troop landing?
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January 3rd, 2004, 04:05 PM
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Re: Are We Evil?
in one game i play an empire who only gas. as it is their culture and background to do that.
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