Are We Evil?

Wardad · #1 January 3rd, 2004, 03:48 PM

ask someone who has done it for real...
...ask the Alien Agent...

Loser · #2 January 3rd, 2004, 03:59 PM

I like to avoid genocide, just for economic reasons. I've never played it Gryphin's way, but I may have to try that soon.

In a TDM/FQM game recently I was trying to beat the Rage down enough that they'd surrender. Yeah, the Rage. Surrender. So that didn't happen. But in the process I tried to take their homeworld in Tac combat (High-Med TDM is being difficult, so I'm using Tac)

It had 16 billion on it, and I had two ships of one hundred troops each. Just like expecting the Rage to surrender once I had ten times their score I expected that many troops could take a homeworld. Well, that many troops can't take and FQM homeworld.

The first ship dropped it's troops and they just went away. Dang militia ate them and asked for seconds.

So spent the next twenty-two turns pelting the world with PPB from orbit. This killed about twelve billion Rage, but allowed my troops to take the planet. The Resupply Depot survived the orbital bombardment, so I got just about everything I wanted.

Gryph, would you practice the wholesale slaughter of billions prior to a troop landing?

tesco samoa · #3 January 3rd, 2004, 04:05 PM

in one game i play an empire who only gas. as it is their culture and background to do that.

Renegade 13 · #4 January 3rd, 2004, 05:35 PM

What we'd do in a game, and what we would do in real life are two entirely separate things. Just because at times I tell my ships to bombard an alien homeworld with APB, doesn't mean I could do anything like that in real life. I couldn't plan to kill someone, not unless they had done something absolutely horrible to me, or my family and friends. Then I would kill them. But I guess what I'm trying to say is that just because you'd do something in a game, doesn't mean you'd do it if given the choice, in real life.

Cipher7071 · #5 January 3rd, 2004, 06:03 PM

This topic from a guy whose chosen name is 'Atrocities.' Twinges of guilt? Or has he just been smoking mother nature and contemplating his navel?

Are chess players evil for playing chess?

[ January 03, 2004, 16:05: Message edited by: Cipher7071 ]

Puke · #6 January 3rd, 2004, 07:10 PM

What if it was a planet full of your people, whom were under-producing and whom were drains on your social security system? Would aliviating a tax burden via planetary napalm be considered evil?

Is killing your friend different from killing your enemy? In the end, they are both still dead.

How about if it was a fully developed porportions homeworld, but the whole place was like Los Angeles. Would you be heralded as a hero?

What if you shot down an unarmed ship? Is killing five people or one hundered people different from butchering fifty billion? Why? Do all their souls cry out against you, or do you fear some sort of karmic reprisal from the universe?

What if you killed a family of mice whom were trying to eek out their survival in your home, after you displaced their natural habitat? What about ants? bacteria in the kitchen sink? How far down the food chain do you have to go to kill, before you feel okay about it?

Who judges our actions, and on what basis? Are there some sort of universal laws that say we should all hold hands and sing? Are other life forms, like lower "animals" held to these laws? How about plants? What about some hypothetical alien culture? What seperates a green skinned guy on another planet, from a brown skinned guy on another continent? what seperates him from the guy next to you?

Wars are fought over land and property. All of them. If wars were not to be fought, and we were all to hold hands and sing, we would have had to stop expanding as a culture, long before the agricultural revolution. Do we villify progress to prevent killing, or justify murder to further our civilization?

Kamog · #7 January 3rd, 2004, 07:31 PM

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What if you killed a family of mice whom were trying to eek out their survival in your home, after you displaced their natural habitat? What about ants? bacteria in the kitchen sink? How far down the food chain do you have to go to kill, before you feel okay about it?

Well, I don't feel OK about killing spiders. Most of the people around me, when they see a spider they immediately step on it. I can't do that. I've asked people to stop but they won't listen. I feel bad everytime I see that happen.