Favorite Star Trek episode

narf poit chez BOOM · #1 January 7th, 2004, 10:47 AM

can i get an expansion of those acronyms? i'm not to good at converting acronyms into names. thanks.

Atrocities · #2 January 7th, 2004, 11:03 AM

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Seems to me that you should love Babylon 5... much of DS9 was a ripoff of B5 in the first place...

Babylon 5 was written years before DS9 was ever aired so to say it copied Babylon 5 is incorrect. Great minds do think alike, and to say that Paramout copied Warner Brothers is wrong.

"great minds do think alike" is a great excuse for the plagiat. And that is exactly what Paramount did, IMO. [/quote]

No offense to any one implied or intended, all opinions are equal here.

There really is no connection between B5 and DS9. If you look at the stories and compare them episode to episode, there are no comparissions. The Federation never had a Civil War or a Psy Core. The only comparissions that can be made are the name Dukat, and wow, they both have a fricking space station. Whoop'd'do call the lawyers we have a lawsuit!

Seriously, B5 was the better series and we all know this. The two series were so far apart from one another that NO ONE at paramount or Warner Brothers ever said anything about the other copying anything from the other.

This comparisson is ubserd at best and ridiculous to even be discussing IMHO.

Atrocities · #3 January 7th, 2004, 11:13 AM

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Originally posted by narf poit chez BOOM:
can i get an expansion of those acronyms? i'm not to good at converting acronyms into names. thanks.

ST 1 = (ST I) Star Trek The Motion Picture
ST 2 = (ST II) Star Trek The Wrath of Kahn
ST 3 = (ST III) Star Trek The Search For Spock
ST 4 = (ST IV) Star Trek The Voyage Home
ST 5 = (ST V) Star Trek The Final Frontier
ST 6 = (ST VI) Star Trek The Undiscovered Country
ST 7 = (ST VII) Star Trek Generations
ST 8 = (ST VIII) Star Trek First Contact
ST 9 = (ST IX) Star Trek Insurrection
ST 10 = (ST X) Star Trek Nemesis

TMP = The Motion Picture
FC = First Contact
I = Insurrection

TOS = Trek Original Series
STNG and TNG = Star Trek The Next Generation
Ent = Enterprise
DS9 = Deep Space Nine
Voy = Voyager

B5 = Babylon 5

STTMP = Star Trek The Motion Picture
STTWoK = Star Trek The Wrath Of Kahn
STTSFS = Star Trek The Search For Spock
STTVH = Star Trek The Voyage Home
STTFF = Star Trek The Final Frontier
STTUDC = Star Trek The Undiscovered Country
STG = Star Trek Generations
STFC = Star Trek First Contact
STI = Star Trek Insurrection
STN = Star Trek Nemesis

narf poit chez BOOM · #4 January 7th, 2004, 11:24 AM

thanks.

*join the FAAA and help end the madness!

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oleg · #5 January 7th, 2004, 12:01 PM

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Originally posted by Atrocities:
No offense to any one implied or intended, all opinions are equal here.

There really is no connection between B5 and DS9. If you look at the stories and compare them episode to episode, there are no comparissions. The Federation never had a Civil War or a Psy Core. The only comparissions that can be made are the name Dukat, and wow, they both have a fricking space station. Whoop'd'do call the lawyers we have a lawsuit!

Seriously, B5 was the better series and we all know this. The two series were so far apart from one another that NO ONE at paramount or Warner Brothers ever said anything about the other copying anything from the other.

This comparisson is ubserd at best and ridiculous to even be discussing IMHO.

JMS himself implied that authors of DS9 plagiarized his work. Fragment of the discussion with JMS posting:
http://lists.cs.columbia.edu/piperma...ay/003950.html

narf poit chez BOOM · #6 January 7th, 2004, 12:07 PM

personally, i think all tv shows should be distributed via internet. that way, we could pay for the shows we like and no commercials.

Atrocities · #7 January 7th, 2004, 12:10 PM

I think George Lucas made the same claim about Battlestar Galactica.

The point is, simularities do not mean plagerism occured. I can understand JMS's position, but he has no proof that it occured. Besides, even it if they did steal from him, and I yes it is possible, he never filed a complaint or lawsuit over it.

To stand back 10 years after the fact now and say they stoled from him, well whats the point really? To prove me wrong and shut me up? If there is no proof, there is no proof. It all becomes speculation and accusation, and that is something I simply could careless about.

If they stoled from him, then shame on them. I don't like the people who produced DS9 for the most part as they all think they are the greatest thing to ever walk the earth. So ya it is possible that they did steal from JMS, and if they did, I sincerely hope that someday he proves it and makes them all look like the arse holes they are.