OT: Galactic sterilisation

[dogscoff]

For a while this thread was going really well (giant radioactive roaches- perfect conversational material for a Rubber-Godzilla-fetishist like me) but now ppl are getting angry again and everyone else is settling back with popcorn. This thread is obviously destined to devolve into some kind of cagematch, therefore...

*dogscoff dons his "Dogscoff the Destroyer" mask and cape and leaps into the ring, smashes a chair over Shang's back, elbows Fyron in the face, bodyslams Puke and then turns to flex and chant to the crowd.

[narf poit chez BOOM]

*cheers and throws popcorn at Dogscoff*

[Atrocities]

Puke what you posted was in no way funny. You have to understand that it hurts people who have loved one serving in the military and is rather rude considering what is going on in the world today. Additionally all of my friends and family who have served in the armed forces have never said anything negative about their experience, even the guy who was court marshaled, and most of them are very intelligent, hard working, family people with good jobs and stable income.

I hope that in the future you will considered the harm an animosity that such a derogatory post would generate and refrain from posting.

[ January 08, 2004, 12:42: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[Atrocities]

Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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Originally posted by Atrocities:

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Originally posted by Puke:
and how! moderate me down before someone mistakenly places credibility on anything i say!

Fyron that is just cold man. Cold. I rated him 5 some time ago and stand by it.

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People like you make me sick. Can't even give a guy the rating he requests. j/k

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I understand the error of my ways now. Please forgive me. I was horribly wrong and will forever live with this regret.

[ January 08, 2004, 12:50: Message edited by: Atrocities ]

[President_Elect_Shang]

Shang stumbles back to his feet and as dogscoff faces the crowed grabs his ears and bites a chunk off one. Spiting it out on the floor he turns to the now wreathing in agony dogscoff and says “Ops, sorry wrong sport, thought we were boxing”.

No I won’t let this slink into the slums of a fight; I am very sensitive right now considering my RL situation and in the name of peace will admit that I overreacted. Everyone has the right to a personal opinion, whether it is worded clearly or not, based on fact or fiction, or even if it is agreed to by others or opposed. This is not a reference to Puke’s or anyone’s posting on this thread, it is just a statement about my personal philosophy.

I am human and bound to fail from time-to-time at applying every aspect (morale, philosophical, etc) that I try to live by, and I have failed to do so here. The only thing I can say is that I overreacted and need to stand up (that chair sure did hurt) dust off and learn that this is a (considering my stress and emotional state) personal pet peeve. I am not excusing my postings, only a time machine could do that, I am just offering the best apology to everyone who reads this post that I can muster. What kind of a poor example have I just set?

[Loser]

I disagree with you, Atrocities. What Puke said was not only funny, but carries some truth to it.

I was going to go into more detail about my feeling for GIs, but it isn't coming out well. Actually, on proof it looks like I've tried again... this could lose me a pip or two...

It suffices to say that I live in a 'military town' with five separate bases including NORAD, which was mentioned earlier in the thread.

I see a lot of the enlisted kids, and they tend to be trouble. I'll be as friendly and humane to a stranger in the service as I would be to any other stranger, and some of these kids are decent company with a few really good people mixed in. But I'd rather they didn't date my female friends, the female friends of my friends, or any friend's sister. It consistently works out poorly.

I see a lot of retired military, and they are consistently good people, especially the marines. They make for good conversations and, when appropriate, tend to tip pretty well. I do wish we didn't have so many 'wash outs' around town (quite different than retirees), but if it wasn't them filling in the local can't-hold-down-a-job-caught-in-a-storm-of-self-destruction positions I suppose it would just be someone else.

I hear a lot about the decision-making process in the military, both from those in the service, those who have been in the service, and through the thousands of defense contractors around town, and Puke's description of their apparent intelligence is only slightly exaggerated.

Now, I have the highest respect for the Military and the men and women serving our country in such a matter. They are working in a way that benefits my own life in very real ways. But Puke's joke, which was funny, makes light of problems that some of us see on an almost day-to-day basis. Really, they put the corporate world to shame when it comes to clumsy decisions and Puke's explanation is as good as any, and made for a nice tie-back into the whole cockroach-thing.

Shang is .. I reread the thread during a proofread and it looks like Shang's issue is resolved. Cool, man.

I hear more complaints like those Puke is describing from military personnel than I hear from anywhere else. It's a common joke, not any blasphemy on Puke's part. On top of that Puke has done a good job of making clear not only his harmless intentions, but the close-to-home source of the joke.

Of course, it's also possible that you are referring to a post Puke made that has been removed. I'm talking about the ones I can see now.

[President_Elect_Shang]

Does the military have its flaws? Sure it does, more so than most any other company, organization, or anything else you compare it to. For one example it is the test bed for new practices, and the military is often used to try out concepts; such as how to integrate different races, how to handle homosexuals to name only two!

You don’t want any female friend to date a military soldier/sailor/airman etc. I don’t have enough fingers toes and you know what to count the number of times I have heard that one. It shocks and amazes me that if a “female friend” is jaded by a soldier it is a crime, but if an employee of lets say Microsoft does the same thing, hay that’s all good. I mean after all when she dated the employee it was her free choice, but she had to have been coerced into dating the soldier right? Can anyone say bigotry, or did you think that only applied when used in a different context?

You say that you have seen many enlisted kids that are trouble, sure there is many, hell I put one soldier back on the street when I was in, and I am proud to have of kicked him out. Please allow me to point out three things. First unlike a company if you place a PROPERLY (read that word twice) done complaint on a soldier (enlisted or officer) the complaint is followed up on even if it was submitted by a civilian. Secondly the military spends a great deal of money and effort to rehabilitee and reeducate (not as rough as that sounds) troubled individuals. This is the way of life in the military, after all we are speaking about the ONLY organization that will take a person regardless of financial status, most health issues, and education levels off the street and put them into a job that has guaranteed pay, 30 days paid vacation, and full free medical coverage for you and your dependents. But that is only the tip of the iceberg. Third those same troubled soldiers that you refer to will be discharged if it is warranted and where do you think they go to after leaving? Presto instant civilian. As a note I will add that most of those troubled individuals had problems when they came in, that’s why they joined, but as I said already it is the ONLY organization that will give most anyone a try.

Let me wrap this up by touching on the decision making process? It is a common joke in the armed forces that there is no such thing as Military Intelligence (MI is a job field) for good reason. But then you have to also consider that most decisions are made by an individual who has a noose about his/her neck. If you look closely you will see the noose has a label, and on that label is printed: PROPERTY OF THE US GOVERNMENT AND THE WILL OF THE PEOPLE WHO ELECT THE OFFICIALS.

Oh yes one Last thing, yes, Puke did not mean harm and I did apologize for getting worked up, what more would you have me do? Build a time machine? Considering how close to home he hit (not just metaphorically speaking) I did not think it was funny, but as I said I apologize for getting out-of-hand there is no excuse for my actions.