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Old January 8th, 2004, 12:51 AM
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so where is this all 3 movie dvd set ? I cannot see any info on it anywhere.

can someone post a link. I am interested in reading about it
I think AT was just being pessimistic again...
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7 the delay on the extended DVD is a bit of a rip off, but if it helps then finance the Hobbit movie, I dont mind it
oh yeah... I hope those poor blokes can get over their financial problems, I hear those struggling artists are really having a hard time with things. Think we can make a donation somewhere, just to make sure they dont end up on the street?

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I love The lords of the rings.
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I enjoyed so much of these movies, and where they were strong they were unbelievably fantastic!! All three are simply beautiful to watch and enjoy, and do justice to this story.

Tom Bombadil's section I have come to enjoy more and more as I re-read these books. But there is no way that some guy who looks like he's come right out of Oktoberfest, sings and dances everywhere AND somehow is the most powerful being in Middle Earth really fits in the movie. A friend pointed out the image of Bombadil holding the ring and his blue eye showing through it, in contrast to Sauron's red eye.

Changing Faramir was a let-down. I have read articles where they thought making him a more flawed character made him more interesting to see grow over the two movies. The movie does capture the relationship between Faramir and Denethor, but pursues it differently than the books. Denethor comes off far worse in the movies, and I hope the Extended DVD shows him with the palantir.

My biggest complaint with the films was with Gimli. He is little more than a comic relief character, always the butt of the joke and always in jeopardy. I would like to have seen that oliphant slaying scene done by him rather than Legolas, to give some impression of the strength of the dwarves. Then Legolas could have said "That counts only as one" and see Gimli fume over it.
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Bombadil is most certainly not the most powerful being in Middle Earth. Far from it. He is just far older than the ring, and is not a member of any of the corruptable species, so it has no power over him.
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i would argue that he is the most powerfull being on middle earth; the demi-gods are all on that island which isn't part of middle earth any more. in the FOTR, he said that if he kept the ring, all the other lands would fall to darkness, then his. since he appears to be totally unnafected by the ring, that would mean he wouldn't use it even if it didn't corrupt him, and the most powerfull would tend to get conquered Last.

that logic might not hold if he could use it without being corrupted and would use it to hold them off at the Last.
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Hmm, well I only glanced through the book really quickly Last night, and the part before the charge seemed to be the same ("We're outnumbered...", etc.). So it was even more toward the direction of slowing down the armies of Mordor as much as possible, to allow more time for reinforcements to come to Minas Tirith.

And, I just watched the movie again today, and payed more attention to the Éowyn/Faramir thing... well, turns out they're shown standing next to each other three times, briefly. Bowing to Aragorn, a shot right around when Aragorn grabs Arwen (and they have their ways with each other), and bowing to the hobbits. Probably a total of five seconds. I think it's just because I read the books that I noticed that, and wondered where the explanation was.

Also... didn't the shock from stabbing the Witch King injure both Merry and Éowyn? I seem to remember them in the Houses of Healing with Faramir, and yet Merry is out at the Black Gate, good as new, as if nothing happened (remember too, Pippin found him pretty much passed out on the battlefield in the movie).

Oh well, I still liked the movies as a whole. The gripes are minor.
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