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Old January 14th, 2004, 02:14 AM
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I just think (although there's nothing I can do about it) that if a population is that desperate to provide for it's self that they have to resort to piracy of other countries or persons software,movies, and music, that there is something really wrong with that country. I'm thinking Indonesia here or maybe Cambodia. Anyway what can the victim country do? How many times do you say "Please Stop it" before doing something stronger. I work for a CD duplicator and we were doing a big run of some Russian CD's not knowing they were all covers of popular rock songs. We got in trouble although we didn't know what the songs were. "Hotel Kalifornia" doesn't sound the same in Russian.
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Old January 14th, 2004, 02:25 AM
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Not really much to be done about it.
Do you really think so? Or is it just no one has the will to do it.
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Not really much to be done about it.
Do you really think so? Or is it just no one has the will to do it.
It all amounts to he same thing, if your fatalism is only sufficient.
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Old January 14th, 2004, 02:39 AM
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one of my philosophies is 'never give up'. something can be done about it. like increasing the resources of the citicens of those countries.
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I'm with Narf on that, we shouldn't give up because the task seems beyond our ability. No task is.

For commerical goods, military force is fully justified. Just start pulling up Piracy reports or call up a shipping company that runs container ships in South East Asia or the Eastern Med.

On the Internet, we got a number of options. CDKey checkers that compare with an Online dbase (but those can be cracked and someone forbid if that dbase was leaked!), reducing the speed of the internet to something redicously low (14.4 anyone?), or redesigning both Operating Systems and the Internet itself to prevent it (and why not kill spam one time).

Then CD Burners. They made that Copy Proof CD, but as CNN reported, that's bypassed by a single key. Why not design copy-proof programs? Programs that'll self destruct or void itself if you try to copy it where the programmers and developers alone know the special codes to install patches.

Or Perhaps the Pregnancy Prevention approach and use a wide variety and combination of prevention methods together to reduce it down.

It also wouldn't hurt to setup a digital privateers' guild on the global level to hunt down these people and shut them down for good.
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reducing the speed of the internet to something redicously low (14.4 anyone?)
That is just ridiculous. Trying to fight the tide of technological progress will only get you run over. Noone would go for such a vast reduction in their internet speed, even regular dialup Users! Well, surely there are a few kooks (or however you spell that...) that would, but not many.

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or redesigning both Operating Systems and the Internet itself to prevent it.
MS tried that, and look where it got them... But more seriously, all that would do is cause more and more pirates to go to free, open source OS like Linux et all. You can not redesign the internet to prevent it, unless you want to give up basic rights and have it patrolled draconianly (even by programs).

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Then CD Burners. They made that Copy Proof CD, but as CNN reported, that's bypassed by a single key.
It is impossible to make a copy-proof CD. Any method can and has been cracked.

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Because that won't work.

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Impossible. If you can read data, you can copy it. There is no way a CD (or any other realistic medium from which you read the data) can tell it is being copied instead of being read normally.

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where the programmers and developers alone know the special codes to install patches.
Umm... so you have to call them and have them come install updates to your program? Reverse-engineering can and does undo all of the anti-piracy stuff built into programs. Go ahead and write in the need for special codes. Someone will just remove that from the program. Unless you want to make your program run 24/7, which will never fly for the vast majority of software applications, and never for games.

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some of you didn't seem to notice this:
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like increasing the resources of the citicens of those countries.
crime tends to follow low-income areas. why? because they have to feed their families somehow. and no job prospects means depressed. and depressed means anger. and blah blah blah dark side.

so, help those areas acheive prosperity and democracy.
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