.com.unity Forums
  The Official e-Store of Shrapnel Games

This Month's Specials

Raging Tiger- Save $9.00
The Star and the Crescent- Save $9.00

   







Go Back   .com.unity Forums > Shrapnel Community > Space Empires: IV & V

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #1  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 07:14 PM
Wardad's Avatar

Wardad Wardad is offline
Lieutenant Colonel
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Scottsdale AZ
Posts: 1,277
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Wardad is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

It is far better to have a couple of weapon platforms, then it is to give a scout or cloaked raider free rein.

I gave an AI hell by using a cloaked raider with plague bombs. Only the larger planets had WPs. The fighters finally finished off my raiders, after I killed a dozen planets.

WPs are not effective against large fleets. They just seem die to quickly and may not get a chance to shoot back.
__________________
So many ugly women, so little beer.
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 07:57 PM
primitive's Avatar

primitive primitive is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
primitive is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

GT:
Ginger and black you say. Well, I may have to adjust the colours on my monitor, cause you look more grey and brown to me

I used to love satelittes until I met Asmala in the Open tournament (5 player game). Had the border warpoint secured by a nice big stack of 100+ small and medium sats, with good weapons and max sensors (+ I was 20/20 berzerker). I felt very secure and content behind this formidable (I thought) wall. In comes Asmala with a trained fleet set on max range. Allthough within range, I could not hit his ships at all. Total dissaster and out goes the barbarian.

Satelittes have one BIG flaw. They can't hit trained ships/fleets unless they are stupid enough to get in close.

WPs are somewhat more usefull but only when used in large quantities. It's quite fun sneaking in a bunch of good WPs on a disputed planet as a surprise. As for detering raider ships/fleets, I only employ them as the third level of defence after fighters and mines.
__________________
Never trust a cop with rubber gloves.
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:02 PM
primitive's Avatar

primitive primitive is offline
Major
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Oslo, Norway
Posts: 1,030
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
primitive is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

Quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You're whole point of making the enemy paranoid is irrelevant .........
Well, you are wrong about this. Deception and finesse will win you just as many games as brute force. But since you seem lack the ability to even consider any ideas not of your own making as viable, there is no point in continuing this discussion with you.
__________________
Never trust a cop with rubber gloves.
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:25 PM
Fyron's Avatar

Fyron Fyron is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Fyron is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

Quote:
Originally posted by primitive:
quote:
Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:
You're whole point of making the enemy paranoid is irrelevant .........
Well, you are wrong about this. Deception and finesse will win you just as many games as brute force. But since you seem lack the ability to even consider any ideas not of your own making as viable, there is no point in continuing this discussion with you.
Umm... obviously I considered your ideas, as I was able to come up with counter arguments. Your claim of me not having the ability to consider ideas of others is highly insulting. Is something wrong with discussing ideas and concepts without making it personal?

[ January 23, 2004, 18:25: Message edited by: Imperator Fyron ]
__________________
It's not whether you win or lose that counts: it's how much pain you inflict along the way.
--- SpaceEmpires.net --- RSS --- SEnet ModWorks --- SEIV Modding 101 Tutorial
--- Join us in the #SpaceEmpires IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network.
--- Due to restrictively low sig limits, you must visit this link to view the rest of my signature.
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:34 PM
geoschmo's Avatar

geoschmo geoschmo is offline
National Security Advisor
 
Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Ohio
Posts: 8,450
Thanks: 0
Thanked 4 Times in 1 Post
geoschmo is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

Quote:
Originally posted by primitive:
Satelittes have one BIG flaw. They can't hit trained ships/fleets unless they are stupid enough to get in close.
Exactly, and fighters suffer from the same flaw. The fighters of course can move around a bit, but the range advantage of the PDC allows them to be taken out before the fighter weapons themselves come into range.
__________________
I used to be somebody but now I am somebody else
Who I'll be tomorrow is anybody's guess
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:37 PM
Fyron's Avatar

Fyron Fyron is offline
Shrapnel Fanatic
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Southern CA, USA
Posts: 18,394
Thanks: 0
Thanked 12 Times in 10 Posts
Fyron is an unknown quantity at this point
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

Quote:
Originally posted by geoschmo:
Exactly, and fighters suffer from the same flaw. The fighters of course can move around a bit, but the range advantage of the PDC allows them to be taken out before the fighter weapons themselves come into range.
Exactly. Fleet stacking of PDC weapons means those fighters have a huge amount of damage to soak up before they ever get a chance to fire.
__________________
It's not whether you win or lose that counts: it's how much pain you inflict along the way.
--- SpaceEmpires.net --- RSS --- SEnet ModWorks --- SEIV Modding 101 Tutorial
--- Join us in the #SpaceEmpires IRC channel on the Freenode IRC network.
--- Due to restrictively low sig limits, you must visit this link to view the rest of my signature.
Reply With Quote
  #7  
Old January 23rd, 2004, 08:37 PM
Parasite's Avatar

Parasite Parasite is offline
Second Lieutenant
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Texas
Posts: 464
Thanks: 0
Thanked 0 Times in 0 Posts
Parasite is on a distinguished road
Default Re: Ship weapon loadout

Quote:
Originally posted by primitive:
I dished WPs and Sats earlier. Will nobody step up an defend their honor ?
WPs are good to put on beginning planets that may be out on a limb. If an enemy planet capture fleet comes along, the they can destroy the planet while destoying the WPs. leaving him nothing but the ashes to capture, or nothing at all. Not a base for him to use against you. It doesn't always work, but sometimes it does.
__________________
I thought of the sun as a big bright ball of something that produced an intense absence of darkness. Alan Dean Foster No More Crystal Tears
A++SeGdy$+-++Fr?C++++Cst+SfAi--Mm-MpTS---SsROPw++Fq++Nd++++RpG++Mm++Bb
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks


Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is On

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Copyright ©1999 - 2025, Shrapnel Games, Inc. - All Rights Reserved.