SEV discussion: Mines

Paul1980au · #1 January 23rd, 2004, 09:23 PM

Its interesting - the leaky minefields and the bad traits are ideas to play with.

The dumb, slightly smart (limited manoveourability) and perhaps cloak mines (you can lay em keep em cloaked until you see a enemy decloak - they would still be invisible to an emeny until they stumble across a field) but while cloaked sweepers couldnt detect them (a good way to explore a system) leave a minefield cloaked until say you get attacked or if you are in a withdrawl and leave it 5 turns then decloak and wait for the first enemy to stumble across.

Defensive tech for sweepers would be a tech called - mine sweeping (cloaking mines) to uncover them ? and then variuos levels that way

Parasite · #2 January 23rd, 2004, 09:23 PM

You beat me to it,

but the same idea.

I really like this thought as well, but maybe only if at least one explodes.

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Mines should force a fleet to stop when entering the sector.

Paul1980au · #3 January 23rd, 2004, 09:25 PM

Yep you could put a limit on the size of the fleet to stop or other % factors that could influence it ?

DavidG · #4 January 23rd, 2004, 09:34 PM

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Originally posted by Parasite:
You beat me to it, but the same idea.

I really like this thought as well, but maybe only if at least one explodes.

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Originally posted by DavidG:
Mines should force a fleet to stop when entering the sector.

Even better

Fyron · #5 January 23rd, 2004, 10:08 PM

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Originally posted by Imperator Fyron:

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3) different types of mine component - this could be interesting, mines that only take out engines, shields, etc.

This is entirely possible now. Mods such as Adamant and Pirates and Nomads have many choices for warhead types to put on your ships. Seeing it make it into the stock game for SEV would be cool.

And now that I think more about it, this was possible in SE3 as well... my SE3 mod had different types of mines... Hopefully we can convince Aaron to add these to the stock game for SE5 finally!

se5a · #6 January 23rd, 2004, 10:31 PM

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Originally posted by DavidG:

If any ships have a sweeper component it should attempt detection of all mines. Any mines detected will not attempt detonation. The sweeper will then sweep the number of detected mines it is capable off. Any undetected mines will then attempt detonation. Any attempt on the following turn to exit the sector, other than the one entered will cause all mines to attempt detonation.

I dont know, I think that a mine should attempt detonation even if it is detected. however a detected mine should have less chance of hitting the ship than an undetected mine (the ship knows it is there and trys to avoid it)

also what if the size of the ships effected the to hit chance? that might be annother way of keeping the smaller ship sizes all throuhg the game.

DavidG · #7 January 23rd, 2004, 10:44 PM

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Originally posted by se5a:

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Originally posted by DavidG:

If any ships have a sweeper component it should attempt detection of all mines. Any mines detected will not attempt detonation. The sweeper will then sweep the number of detected mines it is capable off. Any undetected mines will then attempt detonation. Any attempt on the following turn to exit the sector, other than the one entered will cause all mines to attempt detonation.

I dont know, I think that a mine should attempt detonation even if it is detected. however a detected mine should have less chance of hitting the ship than an undetected mine (the ship knows it is there and trys to avoid it)

also what if the size of the ships effected the to hit chance? that might be annother way of keeping the smaller ship sizes all throuhg the game.

Perhaps but the main point I think is that if a fleet is capable of detecting mines it is not going to plow through a minefield after just sweeping what it can. It would stop I think.