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June 16th, 2004, 01:29 AM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
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according to the report the day they were going to field test it, they let it out of their van and watched in horror as it was run over by a car.
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I saw a documentary on spys hosted by Roger Moore a week or two ago. A bit of it was this story but it was americans and they only put a transmitter on the cats collar. Cat ended the same way though. The funniest bit of the Documentary was when Roger Moore, wearing a dinner suit, informs us that real spys don't go around wearing dinner suits ("Where would you get such an idea")
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June 16th, 2004, 08:54 AM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
I dont think wetwiring is all that far off, I would jump at the chance to be able to sit in a chair and just "plug in"
but yes, as gandalf parker has stated - there are MASSIVE problems with people who cant control themselfs, hell we have enough couch potatos as it is!
the only way I can think of around that would be to have you strung up like a pupet and have you excersizing as you are 'playing' round in ciberspace...
and then there are problems like you had in the matrix, would you realy die if you died while you were in there?
I would not be suprised if that were the case, the brain is a powerfull thing and capable of deceving even itself.
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June 16th, 2004, 09:54 AM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
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and then there are problems like you had in the matrix, would you realy die if you died while you were in there?
I would not be suprised if that were the case, the brain is a powerfull thing and capable of deceving even itself.
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No, you wouldn't necessarily die. Do you die every time you get shot in {insert favourite fps game here} As long as you know it's just a simulation it would be no different to playing games today, just more realistic.
If someone were plugged in without knowing it was a sim, they might well be traumatised somewhat, and ppl with weak hearts etc might even get heart attacks etc, but thebrain stopping the heart becasue it "thinks you are dead" is stupid. Even the most suicidal brain wants the body to live, and the body itself will just keep on working and healing for as long as it possibly can, no matter what trauma- real or artificial- is inflicted upon it.
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June 16th, 2004, 10:21 AM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
wasent there an experiment where they injected a guy on death row with water and it killed him?
or was that just one of those urbane miths...
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June 16th, 2004, 02:06 PM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
I don't know of the myth or not, but it would seem to me that injecting water is as bad as injecting air. It will kill you anyway.
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June 16th, 2004, 03:21 PM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
Distilled water is pretty harmless, it's often used as solvent(sp?) for injections. But if it was mineral water injected.... 
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June 16th, 2004, 08:40 PM
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Re: OT: Hardware-to-Organism Interfaces (h2oi)
It's hard to say if it is a myth or not, between the placebo effect and the note that the injection location is missing from the story. The brain controls a lot - if he truely believed he was going to die, he could have (especially as by the time many death row inmates reach the execution chamber anymore, they are old enough for heart attacks to be a serious risk). Injected into the right (wrong?) place, water could harm you - water injected into the spine (called a spinal tap) interferes with nerve function, and blocks pain. Injected into a place where it would interfere with the nerves going to the heart, and it might be able to stop a man's heart that way.
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