more scary stuff

[Litcube]

That oil-peak essay reads like penis-enlargement spam.

[Litcube]

[ February 11, 2004, 19:24: Message edited by: Litcube ]

[President_Elect_Shang]

Very good article, finally it has been put into proper perspective. No offense to anyone here but from real life experience I have heard one after another person say; “We will run out of oil”. As this article paints it the fact is we will never run out of oil, it will just become so expensive to retrieve and sell that very few if any will want to buy it. As for my personal outlook I won’t say, the fact is none of use are 100 percent certain of how much oil is in the Russian fields, under Siberia, etc. I will caution that no one knows for certain because it is still by far cheaper to capitulate to the demands of OPEC than it is to try and find and drill some of the above sources, thankfully not all of them…yet.

[Loser]

It does have an unconvincing rhythm and tone. I doubt it for reasons other than that, but that's the one that really calms my irrational mind that is so eager to panic.

He also takes any possible objection and turns them to his cause, alternately saying that Bush is in favor of conserving oil and that Bush is desperately trying to waste oil.

Additionally, he mentions 'New Energy' in a positive light. Being heavy on physics myself I've read up on this 'New Energy' and it's a bunch of bunk (I know some of you disagree, feel free to "Bring it!"). He's only mentioning this in such a light so that he can appear sympathetic to the fringers that are his target audience anyway. To me, this draws strongly away from his credibility.

Almost none of the oh-so-important and convincing quotes have any sort of notes by which they could be confirmed or denied. Same goes for the 'facts'. Any that have links tend to be links to other sites which also lack proper documentation. Standard fringe fare.

Lastly, on a purely personal note, I still have hopes for fusion. The author's treatment of fission is atrocious and inaccurate, and he completely ignores fusion. The first reactors will take fortunes to build and decades to get running, but they will power vast fractions of a continent.

In closing:

• Keep breathing
• We'll see
• Always be sure to drink plenty of water

[solops]

I'm an engineer. I have worked in the oil and gas industry for 28 years. This column and the linked articles are really interesting. Please don't stop.

[geoschmo]

Originally posted by Loser:
Additionally, he mentions 'New Energy' in a positive light. Being heavy on physics myself I've read up on this 'New Energy' and it's a bunch of bunk (I know some of you disagree, feel free to "Bring it!"). He's only mentioning this in such a light so that he can appear sympathetic to the fringers that are his target audience anyway. To me, this draws strongly away from his credibility.

This was also for me the weakest point in his arguments. However, my own little irrational voice pointed out, "So he's a kook, but that doesn't mean he's wrong about the other stuff."

Anybody know where I can get a ten year supply of emergency rations.

[TerranC]

Could anybody more educated on Energy sources tell me what that person that wrote the page loser linked to got wrong and got right? I'm trembling with curiosity, here.