OT:splendid WWII movie you'll never see:(

Atrocities · #1 February 14th, 2004, 01:32 AM

If hollywood can't make a buck off it, it don't get no hollywood play.

oleg · #2 February 14th, 2004, 01:33 AM

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Originally posted by aiken:
I think it will be a second screening of Valentin Pikul's book. First one was "Bayazet" and it was awfull. Hope this attempt will be better.

Yes, it is a screening of Pikul' book.

So I have a reservation

- for non-russinas here, Pikul, IMHO is a cheap bestsellerist (hmm.

) who can bloody ruin any historic event - but he is a popular in russia as Crighton (sp., sorry) in US.

Now, PQ-17 was a trully important WWII event, it could balance WWII one way or another and I would be realy sorry to see "Convoy PQ-17" follow Pikul' storyline.

It was an epic story of Heroism, Sacrifice, Cowardice and Betrail - two later terms go directly to Admiralty, sailors and officers of HM ships would fullfil their duty and save PQ-17. If only Lords have been so cowardly

narf poit chez BOOM · #3 February 14th, 2004, 01:34 AM

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And trying to lay the blame on the British is just more rewriting of history, which is nothing new for the Soviets.

the patriot? it's nothing new for hollywood, either.

oleg · #4 February 14th, 2004, 01:45 AM

Thermo, we can start argue again here

Yes, PQ-17 and PQ-18 were bloody dead important.
Russia was fighting Wermascht with her latest reserves.

So it was F..g Bloody important that those supplys come through. Or, according to you - I strongly disagree, Russia would never surrender - but those ships HAD TO COME TO MURMANSK AT ANY COST. Any loss of HM destroyers and cruisers were IRRELEVANT - That is F... B... what the Navy is for. But they COWARDLY retreated, because his Admiral BLOODY F..G cared more about His position in Admiralty then the Outcome of World War Two !!!

[ February 13, 2004, 23:48: Message edited by: oleg ]

Unknown_Enemy · #5 February 14th, 2004, 01:45 AM

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Originally posted by aiken:
compare "Solaris" by Tarkovsky and Last Sodenberg rubbish and everything will be clear. (You may also compare them both with original Lem's book and you'll understand who is the best sci-fi writer of XX century).

Not the best, but definitely a classic.
I could not bother seeing the Last picture iteration.

oleg · #6 February 14th, 2004, 02:01 AM

Oh, Thermo, another historical fact that should surely hurt your stand that US won WWII fighting both Germany and USSR
- Tirpiz was forced to to return to its base after Soviet K-21 launched 4 torpedoes on it. Did it score ? - may be not, but Tirpitz returned to the base immediatly and never sailed again. But HM Admerals were so puked after Bismark affair that they decided to sacriface the whole convoy and save their "warships" - I put asterisk deliberatly because those HHS should lose that privelege endowned since Lord Nelson

Bloody Shame.

[ February 14, 2004, 00:04: Message edited by: oleg ]

oleg · #7 February 14th, 2004, 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by alarikf:
Oleg,

I live in Norfolk Virignia, US. If you are ever in the area you should check out the Naro cinema and video rental store. Why? becuase they are simply amazing in their selection.

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Yes, sorry, I appologize. I remember a very nice video shop in Seattle (Scare Crow? sorry - around 52 street, north from UW campus ) where you can rent ANYTHING - no kidding -I was stoned just looking on the selection !!

I should post "in general release"