Conquest PBW (Star Trek Mod v1.35) Question:

[David E. Gervais]

Originally posted by geoschmo:
Why would missing one turn put you out of the game? The AI can play this one for you and then you can take back over.

If you think the AI is gonna destroy your empire in one turn, then get someone else to play it for you.

Geoschmo

hmmm, get someone to play my turn, good idea thanks.

Cheers!

[David E. Gervais]

Ok, I found a good natured, good willed gentelman to process and upload my turn. (thank you very much kind Sir.)

So now I'm gonna have to insist that the host upgrade to v1.91 for the next turn.

nuf said, Cheers!

[Atrocities]

I will email Geo now.

[David E. Gervais]

Don't mind me, I'm on a mission..

Cheers!

P.S. The game is running smoothly again, thanks Geo.

[David E. Gervais]

Ok, I just got the news that a player has dropped out of the game. SO what are we going to do?

1) Continue without him?
2) Wait for a Replacement Player?
3) Dissolve the game and find/start new ones to join?

Personally I think that whatever you decide is fine with me. I'm enjoying a ton of SE5 work right now anyway so I probably won't notice the difference. I only play the turns when I get notified by e-mail anyway. (which is usually first thing in the mornings.)

Cheers!

P.S. If you decide to abandon the game, perhaps we could share our passwords so that we can take a look at how each player was doing in the game. It's just a thought.

[David E. Gervais]

Ok, I can understand the game being removed due to too many players having left, but I still have one question,..

Was there a Winner?

Cheers!

[ March 19, 2004, 20:00: Message edited by: David E. Gervais ]

[geoschmo]

You are looking at it all wrong David. Do many PBW games suffer from players dropping out? Yes, of course they do. But what's the alternative?

PBW is merely a tool to facilitate PBEM games. It's a common gathering point for people interested in playing, and an machine that takes a lot of the work out of putting it together and making it go. But it's not a panacea. PBW doesn't change the nature of PBEM games, or the human nature of the people playing in them.

PBW games suffer from many of the same things that PBEM games suffer from to a certain degree. Players quit in PBEM just like in PBW. PBW just makes it easier on them so they are a little less likely to quit, and easier to find a replacment if they do.

You had a couple bad experiences. 2 out of your first 3 games had less then satisfying endings. How many of those 3 games do you think you would have even had a chance to try if PBW weren't available?

Do you seriously think that 3 games is enough of a sample to gauge the "average" PBW game? If 2 out of every 3 PBW games were as unsucessful as your experience do you seriously think it would get as much use as it does? And people would care how much when it suffered it's occasional downtime?

Don't get me wrong David. I don't mean to sound harsh. It's just that I don't like the way you critisized the whole KOTH league because of the actions of your opponent. And now you critisize the whole PBW system because of a game owner that perhaps didn't do the best job of running his game. You get out of PBW and KOTH what you put into it.

[ March 19, 2004, 12:31: Message edited by: geoschmo ]