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				 Re: Way OT:  Internet Connection 
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	Never could, still can't, gave up trying.  With my new computer now Online, we should try again, in fact I am trying and getting nowhere.Quote: 
	
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	Router? Hub?  Same thing?  If so, there seems to be no "setup" utility for this.Quote: 
	
		| Could be the router setup. His IP may not have permissions to reach the internet. |  
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	The ping times out and I cannot yet verify that is correct for this hub.  Nothing in the documentation; I'll try the site.  BTW mine is a Linksys, 5 Port Network Hub, only months old.Quote: 
	
		| 192.168.0.1 
 I think that IP is reserved for "home networking".
 
 Try what Geo said in the CMD prompt and ping that. If that isn't right, pull your info on the router out and see.
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		| change it to "Obtain IP address automatically" |  
 
	Geo, Slynky, I can't!  For some reason I do not have "View network connections" which leads to "Local Area Connections" which leads to the TCP/IP protocol where I can change this.  I can get to it easy on my wife's computer but the selection does not even exist on mine.  I tried rerunning the Network setup wizard without improvement.Quote: 
	
		| But if you can't ping the router, then the first and easiest thing to look for is something that happens periodically to my "people" in the area I support...right-click on My Network Places and take a look at your Local Area Connection. Change the display to "Details" if it isn't already on it (usually, it's set on stupid default of Big Icon). Then take a look to make sure the connection is enabled instead of disabled. |  
 I checked the physical connection and indicator lights again and tried a different cable.  Lights are correct, and other indicators agree.  The hardware is fine as far as I can tell.  My best guess(though feeble and uneducated) is that the IP address is somehow invalid.  If I could just get to it...
 
 Oh, and once again thanks for all the help.  At the very least it is steering me away from some of my more useless efforts and toward what might get the job done.  Thanks a million guys.  ...  LOL.  I just realized you guys never asked if I called tech support.  No I didn't.  All they'd do is point the finger at the other guy.
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				February 29th, 2004, 05:35 AM
			
			
			
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 "Geo, Slynky, I can't! For some reason I do not have "View network connections" which leads to "Local Area Connections" which leads to the TCP/IP protocol where I can change this. I can get to it easy on my wife's computer but the selection does not even exist on mine. I tried rerunning the Network setup wizard without improvement"
 
 Well, that certainly has me stumped.  I've never seen a PC where the "My Network Places" on the desktop isn't available for right-clicking.
 
 Wish you didn't live in Canada...Last time I called Canada to offer assistance, Tiarra/Tiera (sp?), I think, it cost around $40 and the wife hit the ceiling.  Otherwise, it costs me 5 cents a minute (in the US).
 
 If that icon isn't available, do you mean it isn't even on the desktop or that you can't right-click on it?  'Cause, if it's not even there, I suspect, for some strange reason, you need to re-install networking again.
 
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 BTW, router and hub are not the same thing.  Hubs are just cheap ways of setting up a home network.  Usually through IPX (preferred) or IP.  
 Routers do much more and if you have 3 PCs that connect to the internet through one cable connection, it's pretty certain it's a router.
 
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 I just read your post again and you refer to it as a hub.  There must be a model number on it somewhere.  Linksys is a good component.  Linksys and Netgear are, IMO, the best two for the home.  Get the model number off it and post it here. 
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				 Re: Way OT:  Internet Connection 
 Slynky, the model number is NH1005,V2
 I was unclear about "View Network Connections".  I do have "My Network Places".  When I right click on it I get these:
 
 Open
 Explore
 Search for Computers ...
 System Information (a Norton utility)
 Map Network Drive
 Disconnect Network Drive
 Create Shortcut
 Delete
 Rename
 Properties
 
 ...but no "view network connections" or "local area connections"
 
 Double clicking on My Network Places or clicking on Open, Explore or Properties give the same result.  The tree looks like this
 
 Add network places
 Network setup wizard
 Entire Network
 -Microsoft Terminal Services
 -Microsoft Windows network
 --Home
 -Web client network
 
 MS Terminal and Web client are empty.  Home cannot even find my own computer.
 
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 Sorry, Kim...MY BAD.
 Right-click, then choose properties.  THEN you will see what I was talking about in the earlier message.
 
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 No, I understood you, the selection I need simply is not there. 
But...
 
Halleluya!!!
 
I did some more digging.  Control panel-- Network Connections takes me where I need to go.  The IP address was indeed manually set.  I did indeed change it to auto.  It does indeed now grant me admission to the world wide web!!!
 
Thanks everyone!              I couldn't'a done it without you.
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 I suspect thanks to Geo more than me.  
 All's well that ends well
       
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 Edit:Never mind, I'm a doofus.  I was reading the other page when I decided to post.  Doesn't matter now.
 
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	Good job Grandpa Kim on figuring it out where to snoop around as well.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by Grandpa Kim: 
 Halleluya!!! ...  The IP address was indeed manually set.  I did indeed change it to auto.  It does indeed now grant me admission to the world wide web!!!
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	That's a great trick there Geo, I gotta memorize that one.  But tell me, if you have a DSL line, what would you type?  If I type that on my system with the DSL line, it always times out.Quote: 
	
		| Originally posted by geoschmo: 
 Try clicking start run, "cmd". In the window that pops up type ping 192.168.1.1. That is usually the LAN ip address of the cable modem.
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