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		...and if you are cheesey enough to do the upgrade trick...then you're probably cheesey enough to take enough construction bonuses at the start too...     
And Fyron is in no way cheesey at all - because retrofit series building is nothing like the upgrade shortcut is it???     
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
			
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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		There are far too many tongues in this thread. 
 
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		Wow, that's a neat trick to build facilities faster.  Well, I'll resort to whatever cheesy tactics I can use, when I'm in a desperate situation.      
		
	
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
		
	
		
		
	
	
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  Nor has anyone posted an article about max/minning race characteristics, because that's also covered in cheese whiz.           
 
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 That was actually made so that people would stop losing horribly just because they did not take the appropriate combat bonuses at the start of the game. More of a way to level the playing field than anything. It is just knowledge that most people pick up on after their first several sound thrashings resulting in having a poorly designed empire against those with well designed empires. Hardly any cheesier than a Newbie FAQ with Strategy Articles.       In fact, it is just like the Strategy Articles, except far more specific, as the way you spend racial points has a HUGE effect on the outcome of the game. Some degree of min/maxing is necessary to remain competitive in PBW games and not be instantly steam-rolled over. 
 
Maximizing racial point usage is a far cry from exploiting the upgrade mechanics in this manner. 
 
Kwok, retroseries building is more of an outgrowth of being used to the SE3 construction, where you build ships by repairing them in the first place.       I rarely ever retroseries build, and even then, it is only when I have a huge surplus of resources laying around that are going to waste. What else should I do with them, give them to my enemies?      
 
Just one more thing to banish from future PBW games... 
  
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		All tactics are cheese.  In fact, everything is cheese.  Even the moon.  Just ask Narf.        (couldn't resist)
 
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		Anything that helps you beat me is a cheesy tactic. 
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		Advance Storage Techniques gives 30 slots? 
 
Whoa, I'm getting that one next time. 
 
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